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GOAL Response To AG Healey’s Actions - Rally Sat 7/23 @ 10:00 AM
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Ultimately this is how you have to recruit and coordinate with people - gun clubs and gun club emails/forums.
Most bigger clubs will have a "political officer" now. The guy who coordinates with the state and national gun groups. I've been a member of three gun clubs so far, 2 in RI and one in NH. The club that was best politically organized was Wallum Lake in Burrillville, RI.
The gun club is the grassroots level. People can just delete emails, but if you have a cell of people at each gun club who are working (and shooting) at every club, you have the chance to make more connections.
In RI, most if not all of the clubs "answer" to or at least work with Federated Sportsmen, which is sort of the RI hunting and gun rights group on the state level. There is the actual RI NRA affiliate group but I only saw those guys at bill hearings. Federated was the group. Does Mass have a similar relationship between a gun group and clubs?
Representatives that signed, sorted by town:
Amesbury - James M. Kelcourse https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/JMK1
Andover - James J. Lyons, Jr. https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/JJL1
Athol - Susannah M. Whipps Lee https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/SLG1
Auburn - Paul K. Frost https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/PKF1
Barnstable - Brian R. Mannal https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/BRM1
Billerica - Marc T. Lombardo https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/MTL1
Brewster - Timothy R. Whelan https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/TRW1
Bridgewater - Angelo L. D'Emilia https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/ALD1
Dedham - Paul McMurtry https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/P_M1
Dracut - Colleen M. Garry https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/CMG1
Duxbury Josh S. Cutler https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/JSC1
East Falmouth David T. Vieira https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/DTV1
East Sandwich Randy Hunt https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/R_H1
Fall River Alan Silvia https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/A_S1
Fitchburg Stephan Hay https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/S_H1
Gardner Jonathan D. Zlotnik https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/JDZ1
Grafton David K. Muradian, Jr. https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/DKM1
Groton Sheila C. Harrington https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/SCH1
Holden Kimberly N. Ferguson https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/KNF1
Ipswich Bradford R. Hill https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/BRH1
Kingston Thomas J. Calter https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/TJC1
Lakeville Keiko M. Orrall https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/KMO1
Leicester Kate D. Campanale https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/KDC1
Lowell Thomas A. Golden, Jr. https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/TAG1
Lowell David M. Nangle https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/DMN1
Mansfield F. Jay Barrows https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/FJB1
Norfolk Shawn Dooley https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/S_D1
North Attleborough Elizabeth A. Poirier https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/EAP1
North Reading Bradley H. Jones, Jr. https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/BHJ1
Norwell David F. DeCoste https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/DFD1
Plymouth Mathew Muratore https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/MJM2
Saugus Donald H. Wong https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/DHW1
Seekonk Steven S. Howitt https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/SSH1
Shrewsbury Hannah Kane https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/HEK1
Southwick Nicholas A. Boldyga https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/NAG1
Spencer Donald R. Berthiaume, Jr. https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/DRB1
Spencer Peter J. Durant https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/PJD2
Taunton Shaunna L. O'Connell https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/SLO1
Uxbridge Kevin J. Kuros https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/KJK1
Wareham Susan Williams Gifford https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/SWG1
Warren Todd M. Smola https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/TMS2
Webster Joseph D. McKenna https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/JDM1
West Newbury Leonard Mirra https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/L_M1
Westfield John C. Velis https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/JCV1
Westford James Arciero https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/J_A1
Whitman Geoff Diehl https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/J_D1
Woburn James J. Dwyer https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/JJD1
Worthington Stephen Kulik https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/S_K1
Senators that signed:
Gloucester - Bruce E. Tarr https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/BET0
Leominster - Jennifer L. Flanagan https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/JLF0
Millbury - Michael O. Moore https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/MOM0
Plymouth - Viriato M. deMacedo https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/VMD0
Spencer - Anne M. Gobi https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/AMG0
Walpole - James E. Timilty https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/JET0
Webster - Ryan C. Fattman https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/RCF0
Westfield - Donald F. Humason, Jr. https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/DFH0
Weymouth - Patrick M. OConnor https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/PMO
Wrentham - Richard J. Ross https://malegislature.gov/People/Profile/RJR0
I'm not going to click on every single one but thanks for doing this. it makes it easier to quickly find who signed it. It certainly seems as though this was a bipartisan response. keep up the pressure folks!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes this is the problem. One of my buddies said "meh, Baker will overturn or the courts will overturn it. No big deal."
No, you don't understand. Baker is in on this too and he isn't coming to help us. Courts could take years... And that's if it even wins in court... If it doesn't, this "cancer" will start to spread from on AG to the next. They have more power than the president of the United States right now.
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It amazes me that this state has seen more people killed and injured with a pressure cooker than with semi-auto rifles, but this clam makes gun owners and makers, criminals.
What we need is politicians that are not afraid to speak the truth. Boston, Orlando, Dallas, Ft. Hood, Paris, Niece, Munich. The common denominator is not a firearm. It is radical Islam. But to say it out loud takes courage and risks political ruin.
It is also much, much harder to go after radical Muslims. They do not have to register with the government the way a gun buyer does.
It is scary to think that they know more about us, having made a firearms purchase, than they know about some crazy bastard that publicly calls for death and destruction on social media. What is worse is that some of these mosques are meeting grounds and havens for terrorism, but our elected officials not only don't have the balls to call them out on it, but they vilify those of us that have the common sense to notice the problem.
What we need is politicians that are not afraid to speak the truth. Boston, Orlando, Dallas, Ft. Hood, Paris, Niece, Munich. The common denominator is not a firearm. It is radical Islam. But to say it out loud takes courage and risks political ruin.
It is also much, much harder to go after radical Muslims. They do not have to register with the government the way a gun buyer does.
It is scary to think that they know more about us, having made a firearms purchase, than they know about some crazy bastard that publicly calls for death and destruction on social media. What is worse is that some of these mosques are meeting grounds and havens for terrorism, but our elected officials not only don't have the balls to call them out on it, but they vilify those of us that have the common sense to notice the problem.
The timing of this was no accident. One thing i took from yesterday was the fact that this was don't just to get Hillary's attention just before the convention. She knows that these guns have never been a problem in Massachusetts. She's just sucking up to pants suit. I too have some friends that had bogus excuses for not going yesterday. I was happy and proud to be there. I felt very proud of my >5000 new friends.
Training guns.
http://www.blueguns.com/default.asp
Guys were up front holding them in slings. Might have been NRA reps. My twisted brain immediately adapted a Stones song, "I see a blue gun and I want to paint it black..."
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Or should we all show up with AR's painted blue. Maybe day-glo orange muzzle tips?
Quick question. I saw an article on FB from GOAL. One part of it said that GOAL strongly suggests not bringing your AR to gun ranges. Why?
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At the end of the day this document does nothing...it is just say they are unhappy they were not included. What it should have said is **** you all current laws should be abolished. They say just enough to keep us all happy yet not enough to rock the boat.
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Gun Grabbing Jack booted thugs will be at the gates waiting to take it......Once it is taken they will hide behind a cloudy supposed law, it will take you years to get it back. Actually you will never get it back. Me I'm off to the rang this morning....Rapid fire Rocks!
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for real? Is that really a concern?
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GOAL Response To AG Healey’s Actions - Rally Sat 7/23 @ 10:00 AM
Hard to believe. Please post the link.
Hard to believe. Please post the link.
Nobody knows what will happen next. Confiscation of 'assault weapons' is certainly a possibility now, however I suspect their advice is simply an overabundance of caution. Proceed about your life at your own comfort level.
This.
It all depends on how your local LE view citizen ownership of modern sporting rifles - If they're against it, they could confiscate your rifle while they investigate whether or not you possessed it before 7/20/2016.
The scary part about this whole thing is that the AG declared ALL post-'94 "MA-compliant" rifles illegal, but said she wouldn't prosecute those of us that have them now. However, she seldom prosecutes anybody. Your local county DA's office does though, and since she declared us all felons, our local DA can have us arrested. They do not work for Healey, and they are under absolutely no obligation to abide by her amnesty promise. If they prosecute, she cannot call them off (nor would she).
And this is the heart of the matter. Get pulled over for a minor traffic violation, cop sees you have an LTC, quick search and you show up as an owner of an illegal firearm. BOOM!
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/lo...g_s_copycat_rifle_ban_likely_to_be_challenged
The Gun Owners Action League — which is planning a rally at the State House this morning — is already warning members not to take assault rifles to the gun range, its executive director, Jim Wallace, said.
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probable cause to search? don't give permission obviously
as far as going to the range, upcoming 3 gun matches will go on as planned I'm sure and there WILL be LE attending and participating so I don't see why you should not bring one to the range. Don't be terrorized by the directive, it is not a regulation.
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How many times in history have cops just said You don't want me to search? Oh, OK, then, have a nice night"? Probable cause can be invented an any circumstance. Of course it might be tossed out in court, but significant damage will almost certainly have been done already by that point.
True, but I've been pulled over a dozen times in my life, in many different states, and I've never come close to getting searched. Granted, I'm white (not really joking there), and I wouldn't want to generalize from my own experiences; I'm just wondering how common it really is.
No stickers on car, no range equipment in back seat, and nothing identifying you as a gun owner... This is seriously what MA has come to: Your basic rights are held hostage at the whim of a dictator. This state can no longer even masquerade as a democracy.
Another dumpster-fire of a thread. You know, in case you had low blood pressure this afternoon or had no particular need to preserve your sanity. http://www.universalhub.com/2016/gun-supporters-protest-new-weapons-restrictions
That's how I roll on the way to the range. I leave the diesel pickup at home, and take the dinky little Subaru. No stickers, everything out of sight. Even before this week, I always felt like I had a kilo of cocaine in the trunk whenever I was on the way to the range.
It shouldn't have to be that way, but that's the way it is I guess. Not for long, making preps to move to NH.
Fun fact though... if you have a vehicle registered commercially they can't tell if you have a LTC when you are pulled over. This was told to me by a LEO friend of mine, who said criminals use it as a way to get around without cops knowing their record.
Since we are all criminals now, we should really start learning from our peers.
I live in NH and I drive a blue Volvo sedan with no bumper stickers or the like. I also don't leave valuable stuff either in the car or visible.
It has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with "I don't want some methead stealing my stuff."
Oh and for the Jeep guys - a good friend of mine in Alabama would play a game. It's called "how much stuff can I steal from an open vehicle?" Quite a lot, actually.
I always thought everyone had enough common sense to do stuff like locking doors and keeping valuables safe.
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Thought. Wouldn't this be similar to the VW issue. According to the AG the mfgs knowing committed the crime of making and selling. We as customers purchased in good faith and should not be liable. I thought the ATF or other licensed the mfg and inspected their products. So now wouldn't the federal gov be liable for letting us purchase illegal products.
From what I understand, from 1994-2004 the ATF was the final word on whether or not a firearm was in compliance with the Federal AWB. After it sunsetted, they no longer filled that role. So we were left in limbo as to what is a muzzle brake, and what is a flash suppressor, etc.
It is now in the wheelhouse of whatever prosecutor decides to file charges... YAY!!!
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