I'm sure glad not everybody has the go home safely mentality and people like Spencer Stone and his friends exist.
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I'm sure glad not everybody has the go home safely mentality and people like Spencer Stone and his friends exist.
I'll take a shot in defense of me and/or my family. Otherwise I'll be a responsible witness. It's everyone's right to defend themselves. And it is their right not to. Because one chooses not to doesn't mean it is automatically my responsibility because I choose to carry.
I hate to be like that but that is how society is today.
If I'm walking down the street and see a mugging I am in defense of myself mode. I'll tell the police what I saw but that's as far as my involvement will go.
Too may people go to jail while trying to "do the right thing". I will not.
And I would expect no different treatment if I am the potential victim. It's just how we are these days.
You should have been the one to shoot Tsarnaev in the boat in Watertown, walking down the street with your wife and kids.
I'm sure you wouldn't have been misidentified as another active shooter by the trigger happy immune-from-prosecution exigency-fueled SWAT team, and there's no way your family would have caught any friendly fire.
Why is everyone talking in such absolutes? Every situation will be different.
I'm sorry, but articles like that kind of ping my derp meter. I get the sentiment of the article, but just putting a gun to stop an active shooter, is like putting on sneakers will get you ready to run a marathon. If you are carrying a gun with the express intent of using it to fight, there is a lot more that should be going into it. I'm not shitting on any particular group, I've seen people from ALL backgrounds that are fooling themselves with their defensive gun-fighting capabilities (including myself for a time). The other issue is that you are far more likely to have to verbally, physically, or medically manage an issue in your life before you ever pull a gun. Prepare for the violence continuum.
Larry Correia said:Paris. Coming soon to a location near you. Mumbai, Beslan, and a thousand others, we’ve seen this before, and we’ll see it again.
On the personal, local level, this is another example of why you should carry a gun. No, we don’t expect every permit holder to be a Navy SEAL, just a speed bump. The best way to stop a mass shooter is an immediate violent response. At best, you drop them before they can hurt too many people. At worst, congratulations you were a distraction, but even distractions can save lives or derail plans.
Running is great. I’ll never fault somebody who chooses to run or hide when bad things happen. Every one of us has a different level of training, knowledge, and commitment, and what is the right answer for you, isn’t the right answer for your grandma. If you are the kind of person to get involved, you need to have a clue. However, since the only constant of gunfights is that they suck for somebody, you can do everything right and still die. On the bright side you at least bought everybody else some time.
But it several people earlier in the thread said to summarize "I have no duty, unless a accept it".
To some extent that is true. And you can shirk any duty you want. No worries.
But it we all have a duty, for example, to defend the constitution. Obviously here the second amendment. But also, in regards to the durkas who don't like anyone drawing a caricature of the camel humping pedophile Mohammed, we have a duty to defend the first amendment.
You DO have a duty to your neighbors. You DO have a duty to your fellow citizens.
How would the plane that went down in a Pennsylvania field on 9/11 have gone if everyone in that plane said "hey, let's just wait this out, maybe they won't crash us into a building and we can live another day"
Oh and for the record, yeah I took an oath. I did. Done. Been released from said oath. Thanks.
Nobody was asking but since you brought it up, I think that is a pretty shameful position.
Nobody was asking but since you brought it up, I think that is a pretty shameful position.
This kind of opens up the whole question of civic duty, doesn't it? Do we as citizens have the responsibility to be involved in our communities and the functioning of the government to the extent that we work to make it operate the way we think it should? It is obvious that a great many people today do not get involved, and the government does whatever it wants because of this.
Even if we are libertarians, shouldn't we be out there working to ensure that the government is run in as libertarian fashion as possible? We sure spend a lot of time arguing amongst ourselves about this stuff...
what do you do?
Shoot the hostage?
Getting my wife and children out safely putting down any bad guy that tries to stop me.
Make sure wife and kids get out to the car safely.
Then go back and see who else you can safely get out of the mall.....?
How'd I do?
Send the wife to the food court with the rosco while I hide behind my kid..
Getting my wife and children out safely putting down any bad guy that tries to stop me.
End of conversation.