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Actually it sucks for ban states. Because this shouldn't be in the first place. I appreciate their ability to make a work-around, but UGH!
How the hell do you get a 4.5lb trigger that has to extract a spent case and tension the charging spring at the same time?
First guess is it's a really long trigger travel.How the hell do you get a 4.5lb trigger that has to extract a spent case and tension the charging spring at the same time?
First guess is it's a really long trigger travel.
I'm surprised someone hasn't made an ar lower that stays open when fired then releases the bolt with the trigger reset.
"We are looking for a release date of..."
(Stares at gun waiting for an answer)
"And our price point will be ...."
(Stares at the gun waiting for it to speak)
How reliable will this be when it starts to get dirty?
No I mean releasing the trigger closes the bolt then you have to pull it again to fire it. Bolt locks open release it closes etc. etc. Also doesn't the open bolt thing only apply to certain designs like the Sten?
Open Bolt refers to guns that have a fixed firing pin on the bolt, and the action of closing the bolt doubles as a strike with the firing pin. They were reclassified going forward as machine guns by the ATF because they were considered too easily converted to giggle mode. There was also a Kimber (I think) open bolt .22.No I mean releasing the trigger closes the bolt then you have to pull it again to fire it. Bolt locks open release it closes etc. etc. Also doesn't the open bolt thing only apply to certain designs like the Sten?
in a few millenia archeologists will dig it up and will try to understand what the f*** are these.
For the amount of effort spent for all these workarounds, it would be much cheaper just shoot a bunch of politicians and their commie voters.
Ok then what I'm describing would also be semi auto got it. I wasn't sure. I know they have have these "semi" auto rifles in Europe for huntng that you have to manually shut the bolt with a thumb lever and they have something like this for AR's also.
Australia too, I'm told.Ha! I have this old .22 that's "half semi-auto". Same deal. (except no magazine)
Pull the trigger, it fires and ejects the spent case, but the bolt stays open and you have to close it manually.
Weird mechanism, I didn't realize there were euro-spec versions because laws.
Simple mechanical advantage via levers, gearing or the like.How the hell do you get a 4.5lb trigger that has to extract a spent case and tension the charging spring at the same time?
Simple mechanical advantage via levers, gearing or the like.
^ Do you know for a fact that no energy from the cartridge firing is stored in the action that would require the trigger to only draw back a very lightly sprung bolt? Notice how lethargically the bolt returns in the video. There is very little energy behind it. A fired 9mm case generally takes insignificant force to extract. Your assumption is that all energy required to function the action is via trigger squeeze?
The mechanical advantage doesn't need to be an advantage to move greater loads with the application of a lesser load. It can be to move something a greater distance with the input being of lesser distance.
And, yes..."because technology"...ancient and simple though it may be.
Energy could be recovered and stored with no extraction and, therefore, no chambering of another round. We're not talking about a traditional action here.I know that one of the definitions of "semi-auto" includes using energy of recoil or gas from firing to eject and load a new round, so, unless they're selling a semi-auto, there's no energy being recovered from the firing.
Or at bare minimum, put them in the trash...
Energy could be recovered and stored with no extraction and, therefore, no chambering of another round. We're not talking about a traditional action here.
Why the hell are you even arguing with me on this?
I asked, "how the hell does that work", you said, "technology".
You don't know either.
You realize you just said, "because technology", right?
How long is the bolt throw? It has to be *at least* the length of the magazine plus the locking lugs. 9mm Glock magazines are about 1-3/8" long, plus locking lugs (another 3/8" at least) puts the total bolt throw at *at least* 1.75 nches. A *long* trigger pull (based on a couple revolvers and DA semi-autos in my safe) is about 5/8" If you extend that to 7/8" (which is freakin' huge) you have a 1:2 leverage ratio on the bolt.