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I was able to watch it on the local news website down here. Several more angles/scenes. The guy who got shot backed away when the assault victim drew his pistol. He did not advance, and appeared to be turning away (albeit slightly) to retreat at the time he was shot. As I say, I am all in favor of SYG/defending yourself; I'm just tired of all the people who shoot after, when the perpetrator is retreating, since those are the ones who make it bad for all the rest of us. Just my .02 based on the videos I saw.
ooda loop, look into it. Unless the gap is more than a few seconds, you can't really blame the defender.
The defender who was yelling at the woman? Or the guy who defended the woman? If I believe the story, anyway. This one smells.
I'm certainly not going to Monday morning quarterback, the guy who shot made a decision to neutralize what he perceived to be a threat after being physically assaulted BUT the video, from my perspective, shows the man assaulting the guy, looks like he is advancing on him to continue the attack either verbally or physically (doesnt matter which one, he is advancing on him) when the guy on the ground pulls the gun, it seems like the guy pretty clearly stops his advance and looks to say "hell with this" and turns and is popped. Again I am not the guy who was just pushed to the ground with the attacker a few feet away, but it seems like that situation could have ended when the gun was pulled (without shots fired) and I think it certainly was not a clear cut "he shot to protect his life"
It's a perfect storm of fail.
The defender who was yelling at the woman? Or the guy who defended the woman? If I believe the story, anyway. This one smells.
I understand the logic here entirely, and an observer can most definitely think of how they would react in any given situation or how they would have handled things differently. But what happened to the idea that you only draw when absolutely necessary, and when you draw, it's to shoot - not brandish in hopes of diffusing the situation, not firing warning shot. The most predictable outcome for the man on the ground, who feared for his life, was to shoot and diffuse the situation.
The idea that you draw your firearm only when you intend to use it is a good principle, but I also think in a real world situation it's not that cut and dry and I could think of many situations where I could see someone unholstering a weapon but not necessarily immediately have to use it. I believe the shooter was 100 percent justified in pulling his gun with the intention of using it IF the attacker took another step in his direction, but the situation changed when the firearm came into play and I think the situation would have ended there. Again this is coming from someone who has never been in a situation like that and hopefully never will be, I am just a guy who watched a video and is giving an opinion on what I perceived happened
Down here now. The SYG law, as written, is great if you are legally defending yourself. In this case, even though thug Markeis shoved the person to the ground, when the person on the ground (Drejka) drew his firearm, Markeis appears to be retreating. It is at that point that Drejka shoots him. As much as I support the current SYG law, if the SA were to charge him (Drejka), and I was on a jury, I'd vote to convict. Still, play thug games; win thug prizes.
Same - I've never been in that situation, hope never to be in that situation. I also agree that the situation would have likely ended there without the shot. But in the event that it didn't end there and he didn't shoot, there are a lot of dangers that can occur when one perceives a situation to be safe. The aggressor only backstepping to be able to get his own firearm, or backstepping to get his car to finish the job while the guy is on the floor. That's all I meant by his actions gave him the most predictable outcome.
Convicted of what?!? The title....and the article.....say he wasn't arrested or charged so.....If the guy actually gets convicted he'll look back and wish he'd put a round in the bitch wife's fat ass for good measure
He wasn't even charged so......if there was already a lawyer involved guess the right things we're said.It is possible that after the shooter drew his firearm, he was probably afraid that the other guy was moving to his vehicle to retrieve a weapon.
Or, at least that is what his Lawyer will say.
Get some glasses, the dead guy was coming in for more when he got popped !I was able to watch it on the local news website down here. Several more angles/scenes. The guy who got shot backed away when the assault victim drew his pistol. He did not advance, and appeared to be turning away (albeit slightly) to retreat at the time he was shot. As I say, I am all in favor of SYG/defending yourself; I'm just tired of all the people who shoot after, when the perpetrator is retreating, since those are the ones who make it bad for all the rest of us. Just my .02 based on the videos I saw.
Convicted of what?!? The title....and the article.....say he wasn't arrested or charged so.....