Just looking for a specific loading that I'm having a difficult time finding at my LGS
You could try a WTB ad or post in this thread what type/caliber of ammo you're looking for and others might know of some shops that have it?
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Just looking for a specific loading that I'm having a difficult time finding at my LGS
There is no law, just Marsha threatening to sue if they do, because she thinks there is. Apparently, in her deranged world of logic, companies who sell ammo must be licensed in MA to sell ammo, if they want to sell ammo in MA. Of course, MA isn't issuing out-of-state licenses to anyone to sell ammo in MA. Just another kind service presented to the subject of the commonwealth by idiotic one-party nanny .gov.
Did this happen before Coakley, or is it her doing?
Let's put it this way. FS is the only cheap LGS in the state and they are considered expensive by those of us who shop for ammo at the best possible price. Take a trip up to Rileys or Shooters Outpost and you will see what "true market floor" bulk pricing of ammo looks like. Or go to a Walmart and look at the price of their centerfire handgun ammunition, just for starters.
-Mike
Not to be a jerk, but suck it up and support your local gun shop man.
If you're looking to save a couple cents a round after shipping, why not go to the guy down the street and see if he can match their price for you in that kind of bulk?
I've recently starting doing some accounting work for a LGS... Margins aren't really as hot as you'd think, and this is a small shop, so it's even worse than you are thinking now. I'm sure the Four Seasons of the world are doing okay, but I don't even buy ammo at big box stores anymore. (I refuse to give Dicks a single penny after I was informed of the ban on "Modern Sporting Rifles".)
I doubt Mass stores make much profit off ammo either.
Let's put it this way. FS is the only cheap LGS in the state and they are considered expensive by those of us who shop for ammo at the best possible price. Take a trip up to Rileys , Shooters Outpost. or Collectible and you will see what "true market floor" bulk pricing of ammo looks like. Or go to a Walmart and look at the price of their centerfire handgun ammunition, just for starters.
Online vendors sometimes even beat this local market floor by $10-25 per case, depending on what "it" is. Of course at that point it's not worth going through the shipping bullshit just to get ammunition, its easier to just go pick it up.
When it comes to defense ammo (eg, JHPs, etc.) online prices pretty much wipe the floor with everyone else. No getting around it unless you have a badge and can get into some of the LE supply places in the region.
-Mike
Let's put it this way. FS is the only cheap LGS in the state and they are considered expensive by those of us who shop for ammo at the best possible price. Take a trip up to Rileys , Shooters Outpost. or Collectible and you will see what "true market floor" bulk pricing of ammo looks like. Or go to a Walmart and look at the price of their centerfire handgun ammunition, just for starters.
Better margin than on the firearms from what I've seen, particularly given everyone haggles down the price or wants something free thrown in.
This has been happening since the Tom Reilly days at least, but Coakley has been keeping the tradition of ****ing the consumer alive, by carrying on his policy. Each one of the AGs we've had has been a clone/understudy of the previous AG, so expect the new AG (Healy?) to be exactly as terrible as Coakley, Riley, and Harshbarger before them.
-Mike
except that the transaction occurs out of state, but then again, MA thinks they are entitled to stake out people' activities and purchases in NH on a regular basis, too...
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I never do that. Maybe I should. Some of the LGS ammo prices are sky high, I'm sure those aren't profitable cause nobody buys it.
I watched a guy try and get a free shirt and a box of ammo with a purchase for like an hour, and then walk out, lol. I feel for the dude, the pistol wasn't cheap, but I was also sitting there when the LGS bought it, an hour before, and can tell you he was only going to make $50 on the sale without the free stuff.
FFL's have some wiggle room, but I tend not to bust balls, unless I can literally drive down the street and save 20-30, then I ask them to match the price. Gun shows, from what I understand are fair game though. My understanding is they mark everything up so when you haggle down, they are getting what they would have in the shop.
I watched a guy try and get a free shirt and a box of ammo with a purchase for like an hour, and then walk out, lol.
Likely will be a couple weeks before I get up there (and we're talking 8-10 dollars in gas for me).
For a 500 round case of the cheapo Federal 55 grain 5.56, are they better than $200?
$0.40 a round is the best I've seen it at a local shop.
Did it go down like this?
In the not too distant past SO was selling Fed AE 223 for $340/1K.
-Mike
lmao... wow.
No it was very civil, and the dude is a regular so there was some ball busting back and forth. Real nice guy, total anti-fudd, and wanted to give get it for his chick.
Is there a back story to that clip? Like why the dud flipped out? I need context man.
Absolutely, you read about it here, people will drive off the cape to four seasons to save 10 bucks. I've always said shooters are the cheapest people I know.Yeah... I've seen the invoices lol... It's a brutal business to be in. (Retail in general is tough, often times, especially in the beginning all your profits are tied up in inventory. Then every Tom, Dick and Harry wants a free Tee shirt and two boxes of ammo, along with a 10% reduction of price when they buy an M&P.)
Similar things happen with alcohol, you'd think in a state owned by the Kennedys would at least be a bit easier on the ol' booze.
I am NOT asking to name companies that ship, BE CLEAR ON THAT!
I'm just trying to understand why companies can't ship here. Reading the law it seems that companies can/could ship with a copy of LTC but they won't because of the AG.. Is that accurate?
Thanks for having a discussion.
Damn... I've had friends say they were jerks to them being from MA, but that is a good price.
Did it go down like this?
As a point of comparison, I see 5.56, 55 grain, 1,000 round case for $338.23 including shipping. $0.33/per round. New ammo, not reloads. From a vendor who will not ship to Massachusetts. But as has been stated already in this thread, work around it.For a 500 round case of the cheapo Federal 55 grain 5.56, are they better than $200?
$0.40 a round is the best I've seen it at a local shop.
There's no law. Our stupid slutbag whore AG threatens them with horseshit lawsuits. they're not interested in the legal fee burden that that would entail.
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that's bc MA cleverly calls its sales tax a sales and use tax....see you're using it in MA so all your stuff are belong to us.
The problem is in MA this doesn't work very well as most of the LGSes are full rape mode. It's mostly the fault of the mid level distributors more than the dealers. The 6.25% sales tax doesn't help matters either.
Its a television show, artificially created drama, etc, etc ad nauseam
As a point of comparison, I see 5.56, 55 grain, 1,000 round case for $338.23 including shipping. $0.33/per round. New ammo, not reloads. From a vendor who will not ship to Massachusetts. But as has been stated already in this thread, work around it.
That particular scene could be legit.
Apparently the owner (Target Sports in Detroit), has a reputation for being a jerk/hot head, and the cast and
crew pushed the wrong (or right), buttons.
Tip/reminder... if having it shipped to an out of state relative or friend, vendors won't process the order if the
address on the credit card is in MA.
I just tried to place an order at my go to source last week. Got the message for the 1st time that they are unable to ship to MA.You can buy ammo online...