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Disappointed ... 1st Bad deal in Classified
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I dunno but I think you’re expectations of some NES sellers are high lol. There’s hundreds if not thousands of members here who ONLY sell stuff and do not post/comment on things. IMO you’re bound to find some that will burn you.
Then again there is feedback to help document their issues with past sales.
I dont recall fully, but I don‘t think this gun was up for sale for more than a day or so. It really was priced to move. This couldn’t have taken place over more than a couple hours.
Asaltweapon
NES Member
That’s BS.
ridleyman
NES Member
I've bought and sold a bunch of things on NES and once had a dude weasel out of a deal, but I quickly sold it later and it was clearly an aberration. Everyone else was great, reliable, honest, and friendly. I very much enjoy the conversations that I've had with NES folks, and I have a very high opinion of them, and the platform of NES.
My philosophy is that if you commit to buying/selling something to an individual, and there is a meeting of the minds, it's a deal just waiting to be executed. Your word is your contract, barring unforeseen circumstances.
Again, I have much faith in the vast majority of the ladies and gentlemen on NES.
My philosophy is that if you commit to buying/selling something to an individual, and there is a meeting of the minds, it's a deal just waiting to be executed. Your word is your contract, barring unforeseen circumstances.
Again, I have much faith in the vast majority of the ladies and gentlemen on NES.
SHOCKNAWE
NES Member
When you tell someone “It’s a deal” both parties should honor that deal.
Working out the meet up details can take a a couple days, especially when most people magically live over an hour away pretty much every time lol so as long as that’s communicated and agreed on it shouldn’t be an issue
Sold pending funds doesn’t mean until you give me the money I can sell it to someone else who offers me more money.
Working out the meet up details can take a a couple days, especially when most people magically live over an hour away pretty much every time lol so as long as that’s communicated and agreed on it shouldn’t be an issue
Sold pending funds doesn’t mean until you give me the money I can sell it to someone else who offers me more money.
Yeah, I just checked. That WTS post went up
ETA: SORRY! I meant Friday, not yesterday. I'm an idiot; I forgot today was Sunday. So, more like 20-some hours.
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This is the main point, really.
"Sold" means it's no longer available at any price. The "pending funds" part is just trying to figure out scheduling. There have been times when I've wanted to buy a piece but I knew it would take forever to work out the logistics on my side, so I've told the seller to feel free to accept offers until I can get my schedule sorted out.
It's all about communicating clear expectations.
DarthRevan
NES Member
Some people here don't quite get that. Not implying OP doesn't.
Personal experience has shown me. You make the deal. It needs to be over as quickly as possible. Because until it hits your hands. Anything can and will happen. I have been ghosted, sitting at a meeting spot for an hour. Once. Any other meets and the seller or buyer isn't prompt and doesn't answer texts. I'm gone in 15 minutes now. I have had guns sold out from under me like the OP. Has date and times set up. That makes me mental note that seller. Do not deal with or go in knowing the past.
For the most part. The gun community is a good one. Most people are honorable. That said, while carrying a Glock to the meet.
If a deal goes sideways. You just have to move forward. At least the OP didn't lose any money or time travelling
For the most part. The gun community is a good one. Most people are honorable. That said, while carrying a Glock to the meet.
If a deal goes sideways. You just have to move forward. At least the OP didn't lose any money or time travelling
Tallahassee
NES Member
I do wrist exercises on a daily basis, so that would be a no.
turbo38gn
NES Member
We had a clear conversation on the phone as to the situation. I'm not new to buying or selling on the internet or anywhere else. There was no ambiguity as to whether it was sold or when we would meet. Seller totally agreed with the sale. Clearly said he would mark it sold, pending funds, he didn't do that. Within 18 hours after our conversation, he sold it to someone else. DRG, your last statement is exactly what happened, He texted that exact statement to me! .... someone offered me more money!
As to the buyer, ya, I have a little problem with that, but! I've been that 3rd guy, coming in a little late on a, "sold, pending funds deal", my response in that situation is, let me know if the deal falls through. Well, obviously the 3rd guy was told it was sold or why would he offer to pay more?
Exactly right, I see ole Beau just deleted all the info on the 1911 for sale thread ... notice, he never deleted any of his other for sale threads ... If Beau had given me any indication, that he needed to sell this gun to the 1st guy that showed up ... I would have ended the phone call with him, got in my car and drove out there..
Mesatchornug
NES Member
Did you use the Rep system for these folks, or do we all get to figure it out for ourselves.
Mass-diver
NES Member
Completely agree with OP.
Romokid
NES Member
I too agree with the OP. I also buy on ARFCOM and I like that type of system (I know a lot of guys here don’t) but I feel if I give my word to buy something I follow through and the same goes if I give my word to sell something to someone, I follow through. Yup he only way around it would be if both parties mutually agree to cancel the deal, communication goes along way and if the seller was going to move on or had to sell ASAP he would have given the OP a call to explain or see if he could “quicken the pace purchase”
Just my $.02
Just my $.02
namedpipes
NES Member
They had an agreement (aka verbal contract) until one of them notified the other the deal was off.
OP states that the seller never contacted him to say, "hey, it's been ___ days, we gonna do this or what?". Seller simply sold it to someone else.
Perfectly legal, just a little s**tty. An email, call or text saying, "I'm relisting this if we can't meet by tomorrow at noon", would be a totally different story.
OP states that the seller never contacted him to say, "hey, it's been ___ days, we gonna do this or what?". Seller simply sold it to someone else.
Perfectly legal, just a little s**tty. An email, call or text saying, "I'm relisting this if we can't meet by tomorrow at noon", would be a totally different story.
namedpipes
NES Member
Btw, both the buyer and seller can leave feedback on each other...
Sparky1911
NES Member
Did you read the post. The guy messaged him saying he got an offer for more money. Nothing about the length of time.
Shady. Give the guy bad feedback so we all know not to deal with him
Cur
NES Member
I had exactly this happen. Left neg feedback stating the case, and then he gave me neg feedback as revenge.
I take forum feedback with a grain of salt.
As to the OP, I get it, but I just moved on and forget about it. If I see something that I really want, I move to close the deal asap.
You expect people to have honor and commitment for a extra $50 , lol
I know what you mean and it sucks but its how it is. For the most part I have stopped selling on NES as the BS has risen enough to not bother. So im back to post its at the club
NEG REP in order?
namedpipes
NES Member
I read the post and it doesn't say that at all.
OP reached out when he saw the listing still up.
Seller sold it to someone else after reaching a verbal agreement with OP.
I'm not saying he shouldn't have done it, just not without INFORMING the OP
ETA, there's always two sides to the story. OP might be a lying sack of poop
. The seller could always drop by and tell his or her side!
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Part of this is confusing to me:
Still hadn't punched in an exact day, due to our schedules, but I assured it was a done deal, the seller agreed and said he would mark the gun sold pending payment. Looked today, it wasn't marked sold.... ok, maybe he forgot .. well, he sold it today to another low life that offered him more money, no doubt, whoever purchased it, knew it was sold. So I really don't think the buyer has much character either for his actions.
If the seller didn't mark the gun SPF, how did the other buyer know that it was sold?
Totally agree that it's immoral to agree on a deal then sell to someone else, but I don't know the other side of the story. Personally, I would not agree to hold a gun for an indefinite period. I have agreed to hold for a couple days while schedules are worked out but would be clear about when we set the schedule. For example, agree to sale on Monday and expect to meet the following weekend TBD. Gun remains in classifieds but is marked SPF. Agree to set firm time by Wednesday. No firm time set by Wednesday? Gun is no longer SPF.
Still hadn't punched in an exact day, due to our schedules, but I assured it was a done deal, the seller agreed and said he would mark the gun sold pending payment. Looked today, it wasn't marked sold.... ok, maybe he forgot .. well, he sold it today to another low life that offered him more money, no doubt, whoever purchased it, knew it was sold. So I really don't think the buyer has much character either for his actions.
If the seller didn't mark the gun SPF, how did the other buyer know that it was sold?
Totally agree that it's immoral to agree on a deal then sell to someone else, but I don't know the other side of the story. Personally, I would not agree to hold a gun for an indefinite period. I have agreed to hold for a couple days while schedules are worked out but would be clear about when we set the schedule. For example, agree to sale on Monday and expect to meet the following weekend TBD. Gun remains in classifieds but is marked SPF. Agree to set firm time by Wednesday. No firm time set by Wednesday? Gun is no longer SPF.
When the seller agreed to the buyer's offer and said he would mark it SPF, the deal was sealed. Refer to the fundamentals of the UCC:
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