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Correlation? Controlling people.
- Thread starter allen-1
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My neighbors do that too, but I call that a free show. As long as it is fireworks, and not effing fire crackers. A fireworks show lasts 5 minutes to blow several thousand dollars. But those effing bottle rockets, they can easily do that all day and not run out of funds.
The tea party originally attempted to do this sort of thing- eg, unmarry/jettison the social con bullshit from conservatism , EG: "lets push fiscal conservatism, f*** everything else" but then generic republicans promptly hijacked it and took a big shit in the freshly plumbed well.
-Mike
I know. That's my point. Show me a Republican candidate for president that believes in fiscal conservatism and supports marriage equality and ill.actually vote FOR that candidate without holding my nose.
eboos
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Conservative in the thought that small government should stay out of people's private affairs. Liberal in the true meaning of the term which favors personal liberty. The problem is our words lack meaning now when placed in the context of American Political Science.
This viewpoint is generally referred to as libertarian, not conservative.
I agree. But remember all the folks on NES who were supporting Scott Lively for governor who said what we needed in MA was a "real conservative" candidate? They weren't rooting for a libertarian.
Those folks tend to refer to Republicans who are fiscally conservative and socially liberal as RINOs.
What's your opinion on marriage equality? Do you consider yourself a conservative?
What label? What propaganda? I'm talking about hard line Republicans I know and talk to that are staunch against homosexual marriage because "it's a sin".....and They also believe in the war on drugs.
That in and of itself is not the problem but the passive-aggressive facebook town-page shitposting stuff makes her a douchebag, unless she tried to resolve this some other
way. And it was 9:45 not 10 pm when she posted it. For all we know those kids could have gone inside right after she posted it.
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-Mike
At this point this reminds me of a boxing match a while ago where one dude was clearly knocked out in the corner but the ref didn't stop the fight and the other boxer just kept hitting him.
It's just getting sad at this point as the piling on continues...
You see the ones from American Baptist and up......down south that demographic is pretty much the ruling majority. They are Republicans that believe the Gov should legislate on behalf of their morality views. Down there......Republicans do not support liberty.......they support Christian control.What is this imaginary christian coalition you fantasize about?
Its not as if Catholics, Protestants and jehova's witnesses have much of anything in common except progressives trying to lump them into a single bucket
Most catholics vote dem for starters and the majority support abortion in contradiction with the church
U.S. religious groups and their political leanings
Dude, really? Seriously? You don't know who the Christian Coalition is? You don't remember Pat Robertson? It isn't the power that it once was, but not long ago it had enormous political power.
Christian Coalition of America - Wikipedia
The same was true of the Moral Majority, run by Jerry Falwell:
Moral Majority - Wikipedia
For decades, the religious right was the most powerful among conservative groups.[/quote]
Dude, your progressive tactic of redefining words like "conservative" to meet your agenda doesn't mean anyone else is going to agree to use them. That's why you're getting ratio'd into oblivion here. You remind me of the people that say minorities can't be racist since "racism involves a power dynamic" while everyone else says, "yeah, I'm not buying that definition."
You "no true Scotsmanned" yourself into the ropes and your only hope now is for the bell.
Since I'm a "RINO"
, I exited that thread relatively quickly. So I'll take your word on it.
My impression of the Tea Party is that before long they veered of into morality warrior weeds themselves, and gave up their fiscal conservatism.
He's not necessarily wrong but the problem is that "liberal" and "conservative" have been hijacked out of the lexicon so badly that most of the people using those labels generically are anything
but the meaning of the actual words. Or the people using them have sucked for the MSM depiction etc. Which the machine loves because it introduces a side argument about meaningless
crap between the two factions while it manages to steal the radio.
I still refuse to call socialists "liberal" out of spite, though, because I feel like calling them liberal allows to hide behind a shield. And I've called "conservative" people "fakeservatives" too.
-Mike
Again, another attempt to lump "Religious" people into one single political party.
Did you miss the previous pew poll clearly showing that religious affiliation doesnt equate to political party affiliation let alone values/beliefs on issues?
The whole religious thing is just another her derr talking point myth
Have you spent time in the south? I spent many years stationed on bases below the Mason dixon line up through 2018 when I retired from the army. The baptists down there both southern and American fully believe that the government was founded by Christians and they vote Republican based more on their religious beliefs than fiscal opinions. I'm talking about white fundamentalist Christian's. Talking with them makes my head hurt.....and I'm Christian.
Right, I don't think anyone would argue that there's a definite shift of the term "liberal" as it is commonly understood in the political science arena in its classical sense and how your average newspaper would use the term. Nevertheless, for your typical man on the street, to argue that someone like Rick Santorum is not a "conservative" requires a definition that the common person would not use in the vernacular with or likely agree to as the standard everyday (vulgar) definition.
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Go on, ask me if I live in mAss.Oh christ here you go again......changing the rules half way through the debate. Dude.....I know the whole thing about the Gov shouldn't be involved in marriage at all stop f***ing patronizing me. The Gov is involved in marriage at this point and that ain't gonna change. Marriage is embedded in our system at this point for medical insurance benefits and many other reasons and expecting a 3rd party libertarian to come along in one election cycle and change all of that is borderline insanity.
Dude. Stop it. You are completely misrepresenting what I wrote. Read what I write, not what you want to respond to. Read this post carefully. Then stop and read it again. Then read it once more.
I never said or implied in any way that all religious people hold the same views or equate to a political party affiliation.
The Christian Coalition is a tax-exempt charitable organization. It was formed by Pat Robertson. It was a politically powerful conservative organization.
The Christian Coalition is one example of a religious, conservative organization. Another was the Moral Majority, formed by Jerry Falwell. Similarly, the Moral Majority was a powerful, religious, conservative organization.
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