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Fed Law ONLY allows loaning a handgun across state lines for SPORTING purposes, not CCW. I suspect this might apply here.
Hmm OK.
What if the gun used to belong to the now non-resident when the owner lived in NH? But it was never taken out of state when the owner moved for whatever reason (left at the previous residence, parents' house, whatever). Would it still technically be a 'loan'?
OK. Sorry if I appeared to be purposefully confusing. I wasn't. Just an honest scenario.
Lol, I just wanted to add, I know questions like this appear to try to learn how to skirt the law... but it's actually to comply with it!
What about (once crossing into NH), remove your 10rd mag and put in a (post-ban) 15rd?
Can a non-NH resident (with non-resident permit) carry someone else's (an NH resident) gun?
What if the gun used to belong to the now non-resident when the owner lived in NH? But it was never taken out of state when the owner moved for whatever reason (left at the previous residence, parents' house, whatever). Would it still technically be a 'loan'?
...why is it no longer the former NH resident's gun? They once owned it, but how did they transfer its title to someone else? Sold it? Misplaced it? Lost it?
Oh, the overflowing vagueness! I'm sure at least one person so far is having a very difficult time believing this.
Just left it, say a relative's house. No need to transfer. I didn't really want to get tangled up in this part of it.
On the other other hand, does NH law say that a PRL only licenses one to concealed carry guns one personally owns?
One can think of at least five basic questions about where and how the gun would be carried, ...
Juror going to be thinking: "So, you're telling us, if he brought his own gun with him, instead of borrowing one, defending himself with that gun woudn't be illegal, but it's illegal because he borrowed someone elses? WAT? "
Yes any layperson reading federal law would have a hard time comprehending how ****ing dumb it is, and what the purpose of any of it is. It's mind numbing insanity.
-Mike
Why, yes, yes it is. You figured it out...lol.Feel like I lose IQ points when I try to understand some of this stuff...it's like it's written in such a way that those writing it wrote it just to validate their jobs and existence within the bureaucracy.
Zero Hour Arms
The judge would explain to the jury that it's job is to determine facts, not judge the law. The judge would explain "Your job is to determine if the defendant borrowed the gun while not in his home state, and did so for something other than a sporting purpose. If you determine that he did in fact borrow the gun, and it was not for a sporting purpose, you must find him guilty".
Then, you would be betting on at least 1/12 understanding jury nullification and having the fortitute to invoke it.
I think I solved the problem. The gun is a 15rd gun, and no sub-15rd mags exist for it, and no pre-94 mags exist either. I usually leave it in NH cause there was/is no point to having it in MA since there are no legal mags for it, so in reality, it's only useful not in MA. However, if I was to go on a trip (out of MA), I could just carry the empty gun in MA, then once I cross, pick up my 15rd mag (at relatives' house in NH) and throw it in. Or am I wrong?
I think I solved the problem. The gun is a 15rd gun, and no sub-15rd mags exist for it, and no pre-94 mags exist either. I usually leave it in NH cause there was/is no point to having it in MA since there are no legal mags for it, so in reality, it's only useful not in MA. However, if I was to go on a trip (out of MA), I could just carry the empty gun in MA, then once I cross, pick up my 15rd mag (at relatives' house in NH) and throw it in. Or am I wrong?
Lol, I just wanted to add, I know questions like this appear to try to learn how to skirt the law... but it's actually to comply with it!
OK excellent.For Christ sake man, please just stay on your side of the state line. We do not need your kind of $hit up here. ...
Can't you just say "yeah that sounds good".
Anyways I've been searching and searching and can't find anything prohibiting that scenario.
18 U.S.C. §922(a)(5): It shall be unlawful for say a relative to deliver any firearm to you who does not reside in New Hampshire; except that this shall not apply to the loan of a firearm to you for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes;
Mull over this law:
On the other hand, if you had merely stored it in NH, and never told say a relative that you were giving it to them (or say a relative never agreed to receive it as a gift), then maybe you still own it, and the above doesn't apply. I can't guarantee that you still own it - go ask a lawyer.
If you do own it in NH, I don't understand whether there's some other angle keeping you from filing an eFA-10 on it within 7 days of bringing it into MA.