If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for a NES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over.
I'm tempted, but I don't have a spare Saiga lying around, and I don't know how permanent the swap is. I'd love to see it in action though.
Check out the demo video. I'm not sure why they have a creepy looking flasher firing from the hip, a bit weird if you ask me...
http://www.kushnapup.com/demo
Hi, I'm the owner of Kushnapup LLC. My business has just been officially established July 2010. Only the name has been out for 2 years to create awareness of the product. Kushnapup was never available to purchase before July 2010. Why would people your in contact with have told you they tried to purchase the product before this time when it was clearly stated on the old model PREVIEW WEBSITE that all they could do is email me their interests about it? Also if they say they attempted to purchase meaning they never paid, why would they have expected to receive product for free? Look me up, I'm in business, what are you running? Don't call my paying customers suckers, even you stated that you would like to purchase eventually and I've got my price as low as I can get for you with the short wait of preordering. Now that's not vaporware.
Hi Kushnapup! Welcome to NES!
I hope your product roll out goes well and I wish you the best of luck.
The opinions I expressed are based solely on the numerous discussions about your products that can be found over on the Saiga 12 forums. (they are limiting the date range on searches now, so many of those threads are no longer available... but still no fewer than 15 threads on the subject.)
I have been a fan of the Saiga platform for many years and have done many conversions or "restorations" as they like to call them these days over on the Saiga 12 forums. All of my conversions however have been to Saiga rifles, not shotguns. Why ? ...living in a state that still has a AWB in place makes doing a pistol grip conversion on a mag fed semi-auto shotgun a legal no-no. The closest we can get is a thumbhole stock and that is a legal gray area due to the ATF's "thumbholes 'contain' a pistol grip" ruling from back in the days of the federal AWB. Many of us that live behind enemy lines (myself included) are uncomfortable with that gray area. Fortunately a bullpup conversion does away with these concerns because of the ATF's rulling that grips "intrinsic to the design" are exempt. If I remember correctly they explicitly list AUG Sters and P90s as examples.
This makes a Saiga-12 bullpup kit a particularly attractive product for anyone who owns a Saiga-12 and who also lives in an AWB state. I want one of these kits. I really do...
But public opinion about your company has suffered greatly since you first publicly put up a website. Stories abound from respected members for the Saiga community about having contacted your company, attempting to order, and then just getting the run around. If you are concerned with your reputation I really suggest creating a presence over on the Saiga forums and for Pete's sake send out a few samples so people believe it actually exists. I personally have gotten excited about your product no fewer than three times... each time you did a major over haul of the website and you started saying (again) that these would ship soon. But now after having personally followed the progress of your product for several years and having seen your website change stories several times... well I just can't get excited about it anymore. Not until I here someone say "Hey it finally showed up in the mail! Here is a pic of the conversion!"
Please understand that I am honestly attempting to give you constructive advice. Your product looks way cool but you need to do some public relations damage control... and I think that is only going to happen if you ship something. I think about 50% of the folks out there have a "put up or shut up" opinion and the rest are in the "wait and see" camp.
Feel free to send me a pre-production sample and I will change my tune in a heartbeat. I'll write reviews and post pics all over the place... but right now I am waiting, have been waiting, but have not seen anything yet.
-MS
Cool! Thanks man, I can't wait to start shipping them out!
I've got my price as low as I can get for you with the short wait of preordering. Now that's not vaporware.
That bullpup conversion does look cool. But my main complaint is the lack of last shot bolt open. No fix on that yet. I would like a shorter Saiga 12. The one I have is a little too big. But a blast to shoot.
http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad216/thousm/Guns/100_0611.jpg