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What town do your kids go to school in?Massachusetts has probably already offered him an employment letter.
Massachusetts has probably already offered him an employment letter.
What town do your kids go to school in?
Not happenin’ here.
What town did they go to school in that this could happen?They don't they are adults now..THANK GOD
What town did they go to school in that this could happen?
Must be MetroWest?
A lot of cowards in that town, for sure.Yes Metro worst
What now we are against free speech and the first amendment? If they said guns are good should they be fired as well?
What? Now we are against free speech and the first amendment? If they said guns are good should they be fired as well?
A teacher in a classroom with a captive and dependent audience has limits. If he had spewed that garbage on his own time it would be protected speech.
Teachers in MA know that any pro-gun comments will prevent them from getting professional status (newspeak for tenure, but with the time required reduced to 3 years .... unions will no doubt eventually get that changed to 30 days on the job) and, if they have tenure, can still put their job at risk.What? Now we are against free speech and the first amendment? If they said guns are good should they be fired as well?
I hope the kids learned something.A teachers job is to teach, correct? That doesn’t sound like teaching. It wasn’t an objective based opinion for the purpose of generating a critical discussion. It was just a teacher talking crap and belittling an entire group of people. It served no purpose. It didn’t teach anything. And has no place in a learning environment you are suppose to be leading.
Sounds like he was fired for being a crappy disrespectful teacher. That’s not a free speech infringement.
Teachers don’t lose their 1A rights at the schoolhouse door. With that said, you’re right; the Pickering test does provide limitations and restrictions on teacher speech, and I think a good argument can be made that this isn’t protected. But he can make just as good an argument that it is.
I absolutely agree that he’s spewing garbage. And I also try to keep politics out of my own classroom, both left and right: my students deserve balance, which this teacher didn’t provide.
But as a general rule I hate free-speech infringement.
From the US Supreme Court on Garcetti:As a general rule, I agree.
A teacher in front of a class is in a position of authority over the class. In a public school that is a position of government authority. What that teacher did was an abuse of his position of government authority that fails the Garcetti test. There is also a case to be made that it fails on time, place, and manner.
You can already see where he’s going to try to go: he was merely trying to encourage them to aim for college, and unfortunately he became overzealous and said some unfortunate things, but see, doesn’t that just show how passionate he is about inspiring his students to aim higher?
Yada yada.
In my experience, modern high schoolers tend to be cynical and can usually see through these kinds of teachers. Case in point: they filmed him. The kids knew this was out of bounds, and that’s a good thing.
Salcido apologized at a City Council meeting in February, the paper reported, and attempted to clarify that his comments “had nothing to do with their moral character.”
"I don't think it's all a revelation to anybody that those who aren't stellar students usually find the military a better option. ... That's not a criticism of anybody. Anything I said had nothing to do with their moral character," he said, the paper reported.
During a break, he told reporters that he believes the military is the not the “best option” for his students, but added "that does not mean I'm anti-military, because I'm not."