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Bug out bags.... and the guns you put in them
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Which reminds me:
Is everyone dead in South Africa finally?
Jus' circling back...
Not yet..but they will be soon.
South Africa vaccinates children in test of China’s Sinovac jab
Global study to enroll 2,000 participants in South Africa and 12,000 others in Kenya, Philippines, Chile and Malaysia.
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Half an hour ago I watched a gray squirrel out the front window
fake-bury a non-existent acorn. (It's settled science that
the little bastards do that just to screw with any other squirrels
who may be watching to steal what was just buried).
The squirrel was so hardwired that not only did he
pretend to pat down the dirt that he had pretended to dig up,
but he stood up to look around, and kept moving his paws -
he patted down the tips of the blades of grass.
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I saw one of those swamp tanks for sale down hereIn my “fantasy”. Which I hope happens ill have a new vehicle with tracks or some of these universal tracks you drive onto. Incase I get snowed in…In an emergency I might not have time to plow a half mile of road to get out.But now that I think about it it’s all downhill so maybe just a sled will work…I also have enough Dunkeroos to last through winter.
Track N Go – wheel driven track system
trackngo.co
Maybe you need a hover craft? I don’t know what kind of swap you’re going through
My wife wouldn't let me buy it
i very much wanted one not for the end of the world but because they look fun as f***
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Every bug out bag should include at least one 5 gallon bucket. Read the warning labels on a 5 gallon bucket about children drowning. A one third full 5 gallon bucket ..Might be the best trap on the planet.
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I saw one of those swamp tanks for sale down here
My wife wouldn't let me buy it
I Suggested a fan boat/hover craft because all the Amphibious vehicles suck.
Don’t even look into the “duck boats”
View: https://youtu.be/4DG7eKYB0s4
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Yeah but swamp tracks look fun as f**k lol
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You just outed yourself. If you can drive through it with those tracks that I suggested, that’s not a real swamp.
Here in Massachusetts we have 13 classifications of wetlands. That’s not a swamp
Fly me down there I’ll walk it in my Birkenstocks
Here in Massachusetts we have 13 classifications of wetlands. That’s not a swamp
Fly me down there I’ll walk it in my Birkenstocks
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I'm fully bugging in not out I'm with you here what am i gonna do roam the country side with 1500 pounds of gear?
Hence why I'm buying tannerite and getting into wrist rockets.... gotta make it not worth coming to my house
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Lol its not all swamp but it crosses 3 rivers and 1 national forest
Bugout to where...that is the 1st question. Once you KNOW where and have permission to arrive at that location (friend or family you should ask). Now maybe you should have some stock at that location before you have to bugout there. Next how do I get there...plan A, plan B, and oh crap. Think it through. At what point do you bugout, at what point is your current location not safe anymore. If you live in a city, I get it and yes you would need to leave before it goes completely to hell.
Now figure out your plans and that will help you decide what you need in your bugout bag. If you plan to start out driving then maybe a 2 tiered bugout bag is required. I can fill my truck up but if I have to abandon the truck and go on foot I should have the minimum I need in a pack that I can carry all day. Case in point, you are 40 years old and fairly active, how many miles per day can you walk on roads, how many if go cross country. I heard folks online talk to bugging out, they state that they walked most of the Appalachian trail but that was 15 years ago and they may not be in the same shape. I also hear folks say I was a Marine but that was 10 years ago I doubt you have marched all night for a long time. I am not being critical of anyone here but you need a destination and a plan to get there and then outfit yourself to make it. Once you have this figured out focus on the following:
1. Water - or a way to purify it
2. Shelter - depending on the time of year and weather this is huge, yes your vehicle is shelter but not good if you are on foot. Note -a way to start a fire is a good idea
3. Food
4. Basic medical kit
5. Fuel for vehicle
6. a good knife
Firearms are a nice to have but if all you have is your carry gun that is better than a sharp stick. Remember you have to carry everything you need
Too many confuse a get home bag with a bugout bag and they are quite different.
I am sure alot of folks might disagree with me that a firearm is not as important as a plan and that is fine...you do you.
Now figure out your plans and that will help you decide what you need in your bugout bag. If you plan to start out driving then maybe a 2 tiered bugout bag is required. I can fill my truck up but if I have to abandon the truck and go on foot I should have the minimum I need in a pack that I can carry all day. Case in point, you are 40 years old and fairly active, how many miles per day can you walk on roads, how many if go cross country. I heard folks online talk to bugging out, they state that they walked most of the Appalachian trail but that was 15 years ago and they may not be in the same shape. I also hear folks say I was a Marine but that was 10 years ago I doubt you have marched all night for a long time. I am not being critical of anyone here but you need a destination and a plan to get there and then outfit yourself to make it. Once you have this figured out focus on the following:
1. Water - or a way to purify it
2. Shelter - depending on the time of year and weather this is huge, yes your vehicle is shelter but not good if you are on foot. Note -a way to start a fire is a good idea
3. Food
4. Basic medical kit
5. Fuel for vehicle
6. a good knife
Firearms are a nice to have but if all you have is your carry gun that is better than a sharp stick. Remember you have to carry everything you need
Too many confuse a get home bag with a bugout bag and they are quite different.
I am sure alot of folks might disagree with me that a firearm is not as important as a plan and that is fine...you do you.
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Y’all in MA should cache loaded post-ban "hi-cap" mags at the I93 Northbound Welcome Center in Salem, NH. Just an ammo box behind a tree in the woods behind where the fence is down.
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If you carrying a heavy pack full of 72hr Get-Home sh*t, you need 2400kCal and 1/2gal water per day to hump it (that’s kind of circular logic). If you’re not, a LifeStraw and Milk Duds will do. Trying to suck the Milk Duds caramel out of your back teeth might keep your mind off wet feet and blisters the whole 72hr.
Thats it? Come on man
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I'm lucky I live off the beaten path. I might see a car go down the road maybe once every two hours, and chances are I know who they are. I can't even remember the last time I saw a cop drive by. Except every day at 0600 and 1430, a statie drives by, probably her daily commute in.
I'm not going anywhere. A few close friends that I have know for over 30 years will work their way to the farm. They have a standing invite.
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I gotta make friends down here but yeah I'm off the path still never hurts to have things that go boom
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Old and Busted: New Hampshire Liquor Safety Rest Stop and Lotto Emporium.Y’all in MA should cache loaded post-ban "hi-cap" mags at the I93 Northbound Welcome Center in Salem, NH. Just an ammo box behind a tree in the woods behind where the fence is down.
The New Hotness: New Hampshire Liquor Safety Rest Stop, Lotto Emporium and Standard-Cap Mag Cache.
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Yup, need some friends. I'm really not that social of a person, my job took care of that. But, you need friends to help out in case of emergencies. Just make sure they can pull their weight.
As far as things that go boom, that won't be an issue. I don't think it will matter anyways. The city people will sort themselves out.
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Me; I'm powering through to New Boston.
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Y’all in MA should cache loaded post-ban "hi-cap" mags at the I93 Northbound Welcome Center in Salem, NH. Just an ammo box behind a tree in the woods behind where the fence is down.
I used to do that when I was in New Hampshire all the time…But post ban mags are so cheap I just give them away when I’m done using them….
With all the shit I got I don’t wanna worry about accidentally bringing a four dollar Magazine into The People republic of Massachusetts…
Didn't read the replies, so maybe someone covered this. Mainly, you need water. Period. Depending on how far you work from home, 1 or 2 MRE's if you are talking 30-60 miles. All that 'hardware' in your bag adds weight. When was the last time you walked more than a mile with 20 lbs on your back?
Plan on actually covering 10, maybe 20 miles in a day. I don't care how 'in shape' you are.
As for 'firearms', the whole point will be to avoid any interaction with ANYONE. More than likely, anyone armed will have you outnumbered and know the area of ambush better than you. Chances of survival, almost zero.
My experience? I chased people in the desert for 8 years. When you are trying to 'not be seen' you will move slower. You will have to double back and go around. When I evaced for Ida, I brought ONE pistol, one mag in it, and a big stick 33 rounder for the 'oh shit' that I couldn't avoid, I'm good with a pistol to 100 yards on a human sized target, but at those distances running is a better choice. I was driving a car and planned to use that as my weapon of choice, or my chance to GTFO. People die from lack of water way more than anything else when in bad situations. We burned through water faster than I ever imagined. I found groups with food for days, but no water, bodies all over the place, dead.
As for 'rolling deep' with AR's and plates, unless you are straight our of boot camp, that is weight you could use for food or the essential water. Maybe you could get away with one of those 'camp filters'. But that implies you find water no one else has found and isn't guarding. I never served in any infantry, but I've never heard a 'good' boot camp forced march in full battle rattle story.
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