Best State to move to....

Wichita Falls wasn't that bad, and if it does get muggy it's not for prolonged amount of time.
Go outside of San Antonio and it is dry.
 
IF I ever moved somewhere else, it would probably be NH, and then only for the tax advantages.
 
ochmude said:
Climate is a big one for me. I will never live in NH because if that. I absolutely cannot stand snow.
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Wow! I live in NH and worked in Everett for a while. My last winter, Everett had more than twice the snow. Move a little closer to the Berkshires, I'm sure it will become less.
 
Eastern Washington is good, it's conservative farmland (dry, very cold in the winter) but you have Western Washington calling the shots. Most of the votes are influenced by those east of the Cascades- that's where most of the money is, where most of the population is. So you get Eastern Washington paying for a stupid-ass sports arena in downtown Seattle that the majority of voters voted against but was railed through anyway. Plus western Washington has all the hippies and dreadlock-wearing, multi-pierced freaks and liberals, like I said they mostly run the show.

I lived there 13 years or so, up until 2003. I hear Seattle is now ovverrun with homeless folks with much more evidence of drug use & mental issues and it's much dirtier- due to the liberal handouts they give the homeless folks. They just roll from program to program getting their free meals, free places to sleep, everything. I know it's so, I've seen it.
 
Lilorfnannie said:
Eastern Washington is good, it's conservative farmland (dry, very cold in the winter) but you have Western Washington calling the shots. Most of the votes are influenced by those east of the Cascades- that's where most of the money is, where most of the population is. So you get Eastern Washington paying for a stupid-ass sports arena in downtown Seattle that the majority of voters voted against but was railed through anyway. Plus western Washington has all the hippies and dreadlock-wearing, multi-pierced freaks and liberals, like I said they mostly run the show.

I lived there 13 years or so, up until 2003. I hear Seattle is now ovverrun with homeless folks with much more evidence of drug use & mental issues and it's much dirtier- due to the liberal handouts they give the homeless folks. They just roll from program to program getting their free meals, free places to sleep, everything. I know it's so, I've seen it.
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Lol I grew up there and left in the early 80's. Have only been back home a few times. Was 22 went in the Army and didn't look back.[laugh]
 
I wouldn't go back either- but I found the folks a whole heck of a lot friendlier than CT natives. It took me YEARS to make anything even sort of resembling friendships here. If I had to choose between the two, pretending logistics wasn't a problem (kids, schools, house, etc.) it would be a tough call. I lived in the Seattle area and I got used to the granola crowd. It was pretty fun to go through Pike Place Market once in a while- I really loved Seattle. There's a lot to do there. And if you can get used to the crap laws you can always move to eastern Washington to be with the sane folks [smile]
 
I'd love to live in Southern PA, WV, or VA. Winters about a month shorter, summer temps. about the same or 5 degrees warmer, only a slightly higher threat of hurricanes, not much tornado threat...

... why am I still here? Kids in school, stable jobs, we own our home, and I'm too darn lazy to move...
 
Northern New Hampshire is ideal for me... but i've i've been doing a little research on Oregon, seems to be a good option on the left coast.
 
where to retire

You could also refer to a publication called "where to retire". there's a chart
in the back, it will give you the cost of living + or - from where you
currently live. It takes into consideration all of the factors, taxes, cost of housing, food, etc.


JimB
 
Lilorfnannie said:
I wouldn't go back either- but I found the folks a whole heck of a lot friendlier than CT natives. It took me YEARS to make anything even sort of resembling friendships here. If I had to choose between the two, pretending logistics wasn't a problem (kids, schools, house, etc.) it would be a tough call. I lived in the Seattle area and I got used to the granola crowd. It was pretty fun to go through Pike Place Market once in a while- I really loved Seattle. There's a lot to do there. And if you can get used to the crap laws you can always move to eastern Washington to be with the sane folks [smile]
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I'm a transplant to Yakima, Washington and I have to tell you that's where my heart will always be.

Everything you say about Seattle controlling state politics is true but the communities themselves are frankly amazing places to live. Having grown up in Santa Barbara, Calif. then lived in Texas, Kentucky and NC before the service took me to Germany and the Netherlands, I can't think of a better place to live than what I saw in the Yakima Valley for 12 years. (that I've lived in, rather than just visited). I still think Montana or Idaho beats out Washington, but it's a narrow race between the three.

Moving here from Washington has been one depressing episode after another. The ONLY place I'd seriously consider on the east coast would be NH..Live Free or DIE! Has an appeal all it's own.
 
Hiltonizer said:
Northern New Hampshire is ideal for me... but i've i've been doing a little research on Oregon, seems to be a good option on the left coast.
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Seriously re-think Oregon. Whatever you've heard about Seattle and rainfall...Portland makes Seattle look like a desert. And the politics...even for a left of center person like me will make you wanna puke. Eastern Washington is a lot better and Idaho/Montana is probably better still depending on your tolerance for cold. Hint: Yakima Washington gets 300 days of sunshine a year and the coldest it generally gets is about 20 degrees for a week or so. Mostly it's in the 30s.
 
Yakima sounds really neat then. I only heard about it second hand, I only went over the Cascades a handful of times for church conferences and the like. I thought it was beautiful though (if a little lacking in greenery) and I'm really sorry I never got to live in Eastern Washington when I lived in Washington! But yeah I'd pick Montana any day, having been there too [grin]
 
Western Washington only has average rainfall, that's a myth. What it does have is a very high percentage of gray days and a correspondingly high percentage of nearly year-round seasonal affective disorder. By the time I left I was so tired of not having sun I thought I would scream. Course I don't get too much here in CT being surrounded by 50 ft trees (I have a very impressive moss garden, can show you pics) but it's more than WA.
 
I've been in Seattle a few times, including spending a week near Lake Union. A couple things struck me about the place. Beautiful scenery -- absolutely gorgeous setting for a city. But ugly architecture. I'm talking seriously ugly. Lots of 3-story stucco apartment buildings built cheaply in the '50s. Just no charm at all. And for some reason, lots of very plain people. Dunno why that was the case.
 
Lilorfnannie said:
Western Washington only has average rainfall, that's a myth. What it does have is a very high percentage of gray days and a correspondingly high percentage of nearly year-round seasonal affective disorder. By the time I left I was so tired of not having sun I thought I would scream.
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That's a serious drawback for me. I grew up in Chicago. I didn't realize just how gray it is in the winter until I went back there on a consulting gig in the winter of '94 or '95. IIRC, in Chicago during the winter you see the sun about 2 days out of 8. Gawd it was depressing.
 
I have always though about VT its not on the other side of the country so I would still be close to family. I like New England's seasons. There not anal about fire arms. And its not in the middle of no where like Montana or North Dakota
 
That is true about Montana- you have to drive long distances to get to the next little town, and even the large towns are pretty small and not a lot of selection in things. It depends on your point of view though, that's what I like about it. I have rather obscure tastes and for example I never found a good bookstore since I left the Seattle area (except once when I visited a LARGE maze-like bookstore in Virginia) and I'm already used to buying most whatever item that doesn't come out of a grocery store or WallyWorld online anyways.
 
We're looking at moving as soon as the housing market recovers to some extent. Mass. flat sucks as the worst possible place to live in the U.S.

So our choices....

1. Build a house on 450 acres of family-owned land, off the grid in west-central Maine
2. Buy a house in NH
3. Move 3000 miles from my wife's family (Who are dear and close to both of us) and buy some acreage in the west.

Options 1 and 3 have the same downside: If we lose the ability to telecommute we're screwed. There's no jobs there. Maine has the added downside of an 8.5% state income tax and is decidedly NOT gun friendly. The west has the advantage of being someplace we really WANT to live.

Option 2, which we're looking at as the more realistic of the three is buying someplace in mid/northern-NH...close enough to spend time with the relatives. The sad part of course is that we won't be able to have the land we want, since both our ideas of good neighbors is people 1-mile away and land + house is more than we can manage.

Real life sucks sometimes....then I remember the people on this board who struggle to pay rent every month and I get grateful we HAVE options.
 
One thing to maybe consider is that there will come a time when even the best state in terms of personal freedom will become oppressive as the socialists and other nutjobs continue to throw this nation off a cliff. So yes it would take longer for the really oppressive laws to reach you personally in a good state like NH or Montana or such but it will come nonetheless. I have no doubt about it, myself. I'm thinking that I would recommend option #1- especially if you do indeed have a close and loving family nearby. #2 won't leave you with much options and the advantages of #3 (less oppressive laws) will diminish as time goes by and you'll still be 3,000 miles away from family. My relatives live 12 hrs drive away, and in Montana (and in Hawaii) and it might not seem like so much but really it becomes an impossible distance once you are really in the situation. Especially when you remember how much of an insult to your dignity airline travel has become, and who has time to drive for days and days.
 
Things I require:

Accessible (and REPRESENTATIVE) state government
Four seasons (I need both winter and summer)
Gun rights
Local taxation/spending
Good schools for my kids

So, pretty much right where I stand.

Montana would probably be my #2 choice, if forced to relocate.

Texas has way too many big cities. Too much opportunity for Hopenchange*.

* aka: corruption
 
Bill Nance said:
Maine has the added downside of an 8.5% state income tax and is decidedly NOT gun friendly.
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The tax situation does indeed suck, but you should do a little more research on Maine gun laws. I don't know of any state that is more gun-friendly.
 

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