His sons are hunters and shooters. Let's hope they have some influence.
Lol like some rich Fudd gives a shit about your rights.
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His sons are hunters and shooters. Let's hope they have some influence.
His sons are hunters and shooters. Let's hope they have some influence.
Really weird that last week we had a teen shoot up a Walmart he worked in or did work in, now we get another Walmart shooting.
Was thinking this too, especially when it's a multiple shooter situation. Don't want to jump to conclusions, but if by tomorrow we don't get the names of the shooters or a motive, we can assume their social media is being scrubbed as we speak.
We're already there. It's terrible, but it's not like this hasn't happened often enough for us to become use to these shootings.
Bingo....he's mistakenly looking to the NRA for guidance and cover.....
But to his credit he has stopped making knee jerk comments and appears to be listening to his son(s) more......
If trump backs away from his clearly stated positions in the link below he'll lose the 2020 election
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It looks like you're having a comprehension problem. When Trump said take the guns first, due process later it led to a flurry of red flag laws being introduced and or passed at the state level. His comments certainly encouraged and emboldened the anti-gun crowd. He's not responsible for it on the federal level cause the bill isn't in front of him but I'm pretty sure he'll sign it if it does get in front of him. We're not talking about global warming. I didn't realize you were such a Trump supporter that you're blind to the effect his actions and words have had towards infringements on the 2AOn one hand you're trying to tell us that trump is responsible for red flag laws
On the other hand you tell us it doesnt matter that it hasnt happened at the federal level......he's somehow responsible for it happening at the STATE level.....
Is global warming trumps fault too?
Strange that that's when many of the bills started moving forward much faster because not only did they have the support of their base but now even the President thought it was a good idea. Let's see at 10am how much he protects and defends the 2A or if he'll be supporting more infringements.What you dont comprehend is that Trump's passing comment had no bearing on the bills that dems already had drafted/submitted
You go ahead and keep telling yourself that.The bills started moving because of the timing of the legislative process/season not because trump whispered bad words in passing
I think this is why Trump won in the first place I think the "Burnie" loyalist just stayed home vs voting for HC.What will happen is that voter enthusiasm in the base will plummet and people just wont turn out to vote at all.
He actually said at the first NRA convention that the days of infringing on the 2nd amendment are over. So much for his words there. Wake up he is not a supporter or defender of the 2A. He is another one of those I support the 2nd amendment BUT types. He should not be talking about gun control at all. Just criminal control and mental health and societal issues.
What will happen is that voter enthusiasm in the base will plummet and people just wont turn out to vote at all.
What isn't? Jack.Douche is supporting ref flag laws......
Following the lead of the corrupt NRA again....
I'm all for addressing mental heath issues and actually getting mentally ill people off the streets but the red flag BS is a violation of constitutional rights/due process
As he urged the ATF to ban bump stocks. Keep drinking the koolaideNobody is claiming that he's the most pro 2a president we've ever had
But at the same time he's the only one in recent years who has actually committed to defending RKBA.....
How has he committed to defending the RKBA? By signing the bump stock bill which can and most likely will be used to ban anything that helps to increase the rate of fire. By appointing an AG and nominating the head of ATF that have expressed support for infringements. His judges might be okay but I won't hold my breath. If I remember correctly Gorsuch has made a statement that the 2A should not be infringed upon lightly but that's not correct. It should not be infringed upon at all. The BOR is a restriction on government.Nobody is claiming that he's the most pro 2a president we've ever had
But at the same time he's the only one in recent years who has actually committed to defending RKBA.....
Maybe not but lately the SCOTUS has tended to decline 2A cases and let the lower court rulings stand.We already know that the bump stock shenanigans will not hold up in court......this has been explained previously
I learned a long time ago that government including the judicial branch doesn't abide by the constitution unless it suits them and that they make up and reinterpret the amendments as they see fit. Hell they don't even understand what the words shall not be infringed mean and yet you think they'll do the right thing? Sorry but I've got too many knife wounds in my back to trust that they'll do the right thing.Red Flag law challenges are not going to be 2A cases per se
They are 4th/5th amendment transgressons at the fed level and vary from state to state wrt state constitutions
Red Flag laws are generally a profound violation of multiple sections of the NH Constitution
When he said the day of infringements were over and then signed the bump stock ban. That's an infringement and going back on his word.Trump isnt one to go back on his word
It suits the judicial branch because they all support infringements and Heller still allows infringements.So how exactly did Heller and subsequent related decisions "Suit" the judicial branch?
These people make and break the law as they see fit. Lots of things are codified into law but they're not followed by government. The COTUS is the supreme law of the land and they violate it with impunity.it was already codified into law
They choose whether to grant cert or not to the cases as they see fit.But none of that supports the notion that the supreme court took the cases in question because it "Suited" them as you put it
It got many gun owners off their back and made them look like they care. At least for a little while.Heller etc never suited/benefited the supreme court in any way, shape or form
They still denied the 2A in their ruling. Read the first part under Gun rights can be restricted: Antonin Scalia on Gun Control Sounds like they don't understand the words: "Shall not be infringed"They took the case imho because they couldnt continue to resist incorporation of quite literally every other right explicitly guaranteed in the constitution while continueing to exclude 2A.......
The case that Levy and co presented to the supreme court was too strong for the court to deny taking
Nobody is claiming that he's the most pro 2a president we've ever had
But at the same time he's the only one in recent years who has actually committed to defending RKBA.....
Where is my assertion that the court had to take the case?None of that is consistent with your assertion that the court had to take the case in order to infringe on 2A
This was in DC that they were.The courts were ALREADY outright DENYING 2A
Tell me do you have any inside information to support this claim?But the fact that it got RKBA supporters enguaged has no bearing on whether taking/rejected the case suited the court
[/QUOTE]So what you're saying is that the court has pretty much treated 2A like they have every other right subject to incorporation..........which was my point as to why they took Heller in the first point
Show me where I said they had to take the case. I said that they choose the cases they take I didn't say anything about them having to take the case. You seem to like to write your own and incorrect interpretation of what I say.You stated a earlier today that scotus had to take the case in order to infringe on RKBA (paraphrased).....I previously pointed out that wasnt true because the courts were already being shitbags
Yes and it's still pretty much unrecognized by those states.Yes, and DC had been violating peoples rights for decades along with a bunch of other states/cities
That response was to your comment:Please go back and read the thread/comment.......they are unrelated to one another
so it's related to your comment.But the fact that it got RKBA supporters enguaged has no bearing on whether taking/rejected the case suited the court
Not mistaken at all. You continue to argue for those that have infringed upon our rights before and that continue to do so to this day.This is where you're mistaken
Yes being vocal as much as we can is great but unfortunately the many forms of media for the large part silence our voices and the constitution doesn't need to be amended.It needs to be followed as law because it is law. In places like MA it doesn't matter how loud your voice is, the govt. just ignores it so it's highly unlikely that voices will work unless the majority of people wake up and realize that big government is not the answer.The only options we have are to be vocal and/or support article V or both
Not sure why all the trump bashing.
Would any of us have AR's or AK's right now under Hillary?
Not sure why all the trump bashing.
Would any of us have AR's or AK's right now under Hillary?