Which Presidential candidate do you support?

Ron Paul isn't even in any of the polls, he's got to be the furthest down the list. If you all are actually going to vote for him your throwing your vote away. Yes, he has "some" good ideas but he is so extreme he scares the living shit out of Ann Coultour. You don't pull out all off your troops in the middle east to run home and deffend against attack on your on soil, you take the fight to the enemy on there own soil.

VOTE FRED

Yes that is an excellent military tactic. Send all of your troops overseas - while leaving your border open and encouraging immigration from all sort of countries - including those from which terrorists emanate from. You know if we removed all of the sentries from around the military bases here and sent them overseas - maybe we could win this war a little faster too. And if we removed the remaining few Air National Guard fighters we have left based on the continental US we might be able to get them over here faster the next time some hijackers take over a US jetliner. Put them over in Germany, Kuwait, Japan, Korea, etc. - that way they can get here faster. What an excellent idea. [rolleyes]
 
How do you determine that Ron Paul believes the government sponsored the 9/11 attack from that snippet of a transcript?

I think the real problem he has with them is that from outward
appearances, it sounds like RP is giving these 9/11 truthers 10
seconds more face time than they really deserve. Why do we
need to "investigate" something where the events that happened
that day were pretty abundantly clear to most people?

That's the only real problem I have with a guy like RP... he makes
sense on a lot of things but then he'll say things like that which
basically destroy his credibility. I like RP, but don't necessarily
agree with 100% of his opinions. He's managed to usually stay
out of fruitloop territory but skates on the edge of it often
enough....

-Mike
 
Well then I'm going to vote for Gary Coleman because he has some good ideas that should help us out, right? [rolleyes]


As long as we can convince him to knock out the teeth of
some elderly yellow dog democrats (you know, those ones that
wax prophetically about what a "nice man" teddy K is) that'll be a good start.

[rofl]

-Mike
 
Hypothetical question:
The Republicans pick their guy and this is the guy thats gonna run for president.
A. You vote for him
B. You vote for the Dem. because the Republican was not your guy
C. You don't vote at all
 
Hypothetical question:
The Republicans pick their guy and this is the guy thats gonna run for president.
A. You vote for him
B. You vote for the Dem. because the Republican was not your guy
C. You don't vote at all
What's the question?

"C" is out- I'll always vote. Now,I don't vote party line, so if it isn't Ron Paul, I'll look at the candidates and decide who most thinks the way I do. I can go with either party if the candidate is right.
 
Someone said that the odds of your one vote counting (being the tie breaker) in a national election are worse than your odds of getting killed on the way to the polls.

[grin]
 
Hypothetical question:
The Republicans pick their guy and this is the guy thats gonna run for president.
A. You vote for him
B. You vote for the Dem. because the Republican was not your guy
C. You don't vote at all

C is out, have always voted, but it would come down to the lesser of two evils.
 
Hypothetical question:
The Republicans pick their guy and this is the guy thats gonna run for president.
A. You vote for him
B. You vote for the Dem. because the Republican was not your guy
C. You don't vote at all

A. You vote for him. I've never met a democrat that could get ANYTHING done. Whats the alernative: Mrs. Bill Clinton? Obama? The Breck Girl? No thanks, I look at it as voting AGAINST the dems instead of for the Republican.
 
No thanks, I look at it as voting AGAINST the dems instead of for the Republican.
Yet, by doing this over time, you guarantee yourself a Republican candidate who is always only slightly less horrific than the Democrat candidate.

Voting for the lesser of two evils is the quick and dirty solution, but screws you in the long term. Standing on principle and insisting on liberty is much harder and will obviously take longer, but actually has the potential to leave this country better off than we found it.

Kyle
 
Hypothetical question:
The Republicans pick their guy and this is the guy thats gonna run for president.
A. You vote for him
B. You vote for the Dem. because the Republican was not your guy
C. You don't vote at all

You decide who is the best candidate out there and pick that person; if you can't decide balance your vote in Congress. If it's a race between Rudi and Richardson then I'll pick Richardson. If it's a God-awfull choice (say between Rudi and Clinton) -- I'll vote for one in the Presidential election, and then try to balance the vote by chosing the other party in the Congressional elections.

The other alternative (if you can vote the old fashioned way with paper) is to spoil the ballot (probably better than not voting Kyle).

/Wish there was a "none of the above" option.
 
The other alternative (if you can vote the old fashioned way with paper) is to spoil the ballot (probably better than not voting Kyle).
I don't bother with federal elections: I prefer to treat it like the sham it is.

But for local elections, it's another story: my philosophy there is generally to vote against the incumbent unless I have a particular reason to want a particular candidate. On my local ballot last year, there were five uncontested races. So what did I do? I voted for the five members of Stratovarius. I think I even spelled the names all correctly (Timo Tolkki, Timo Kotipelto, Jari Kainulainen, Jens Johansson, and Jorg Michael).

Kyle
 
If you don't vote in the election you'll be lumped in with the millions of people who couldn't be bothered to get off their rear end and vote. One of those people who votes for the next American Idol. If your principles dictate this than fine.

If you want to make a statement voting and not selecting a president, senator, etc. or fill in a write in, will make more of a statement. When votes dem + votes repub is far less than total votes people will wake up and pay attention. If nothing else it'll show how little these clowns are actually supported.

That being said I plan to vote for the candidate who I think is best of who's running. Might even be a 3rd party; living in MA I have that luxury, it doesn't matter who I vote for I know who is going to win in MA by a land slide.
 
Voting for the lesser of two evils is the quick and dirty solution, but screws you in the long term. Standing on principle and insisting on liberty

Sounds good, however that wasn't an option to the question. I would be standing on my principle and insisting on liberty by voting the way I want and help the candidate at the grass-root level. Maybe I would vote democrat in the future (lol) if their party wasn't so screwd up by giving lip-service to extreme leftist. I base my vote on moral and economic values. I have that liberty, I fought for it.
 
A. You vote for him. I've never met a democrat that could get ANYTHING done. Whats the alernative: Mrs. Bill Clinton? Obama? The Breck Girl? No thanks, I look at it as voting AGAINST the dems instead of for the Republican.

Dems get things done, it's just that the things are only
related to socialism..... [puke]

If they didn't get anything done, then I'd vote for them
consistently. All pols seem to do is change laws and f***
things up; having someone who didn't do ANY of that would
be a step forward, almost.

Course, I'm saying this half sarcastically... but there is an
element of truth there, especially regarding dems... I'd rather
have a dem that sat in a lawn chair for 4 or 8 years than one
that is an activist or screws up the country more. [laugh]

-Mike
 
When votes dem + votes repub is far less than total votes people will wake up and pay attention. If nothing else it'll show how little these clowns are actually supported.

US voter turnout, IIRC, for presidential elections is near/less than
60% of elegible (at least it was in 2004) So that's already been
happening right along and the candidates don't seem to care
much.... They just figure it's that many less people they have to
appeal to.... [laugh]

-Mike
 
Ron Paul has no chance. I bet he would shit his pants and curl up into the fetal position and suck his thumb if he heard a fire cracker go off. Imagine this guy representing the US on foreign visits, I bet he and Cum Jing Ill would be best buddies they could look at porn all day. I wouldn't trust this guy in a room w/ my children for ten seconds. He's a nut job and anyone that thinks that he remotely has a chance in being our next president is smokin something really good.
[rolleyes][rofl]

P.S. VOTE FRED
 
US voter turnout, IIRC, for presidential elections is near/less than
60% of elegible (at least it was in 2004) So that's already been
happening right along and the candidates don't seem to care
much.... They just figure it's that many less people they have to
appeal to.... [laugh]

-Mike

I'm talking about total people who voted not total of people who can vote. The people who don't show up to vote they view as supporters who just didn't vote.
 
Ron Paul has no chance. I bet he would shit his pants and curl up into the fetal position and suck his thumb if he heard a fire cracker go off. Imagine this guy representing the US on foreign visits, I bet he and Cum Jing Ill would be best buddies they could look at porn all day. I wouldn't trust this guy in a room w/ my children for ten seconds. He's a nut job and anyone that thinks that he remotely has a chance in being our next president is smokin something really good.
[rolleyes][rofl]

P.S. VOTE FRED
Really? Air Force veteran and physician? He's probably handled more high pressure life and death situations that involve immediate and decisive action than any of the other candidates. He would probably be the coolest under pressure.
 
I'm talking about total people who voted not total of people who can vote. The people who don't show up to vote they view as supporters who just didn't vote.

As in like, rep vs dem vs third guy; ? In that case, it makes more
sense. If 20% of that value goes to the third guy, that's enough
to probably throw an election off. Unfortunately most pols didn't
learn a damned thing from the presence of Ross Perot the first
time around....

-Mike
 
Really? Air Force veteran and physician? He's probably handled more high pressure life and death situations that involve immediate and decisive action than any of the other candidates. He would probably be the coolest under pressure.
The Air Force just flew a nuclear weapon cross country without knowing it and physicians are being sued left and right for malpractice and operating on the wrong parts of the body. [rolleyes]
 
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