Same here. Even, as you pointed out, the civilian mr556 is a rip off, imo. I ended up going with LMT when I last looked at high end ARs.
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LMT is nice teets. i have a 10.5" AR pistol with a LMT upper. dat quality.
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Same here. Even, as you pointed out, the civilian mr556 is a rip off, imo. I ended up going with LMT when I last looked at high end ARs.
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its just funny here that probably most with an opinion about it probably hasn't shot it or even held one for that matter. There happy with their cheap POS m&p15 that they think is the sh*t because they were able to get it for dirt cheap.
LMT is nice teets. i have a 10.5" AR pistol with a LMT upper. dat quality.
People are really that dumb, and have that much money to blow on a piece up aluminum...disgusting.
Same here. Even, as you pointed out, the civilian mr556 is a rip off, imo. I ended up going with LMT when I last looked at high end ARs.
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i was just talking about the 416d lower and that price, i do have a mr556 upper on my seekins lower and absolutely love it
Do you operate in harsh desert conditions where a weapon malfunction would cost you your life or the life of a teammate? Do you regularly perform water-born/submerged insertions into hostile environments and require the ability to fire immediately upon surfacing? Do you find yourself using your rifle or carbine in a suppressive fire/fire superiority role on a frequent basis? Does your operational intensity preclude you from performing regular maintenance on your rifle or carbine? Do you regularly find yourself short of CLP? Do you have the budget of Army Special Operations Command or Navy Special Warfare Group?
Are you an HK fanboi or fangirl?
If you answered yes to 1 or more of the above questions, then you too may need an HK416.
It's an awesome rifle in Battlefield 4.
Oh, that's not what you meant?
I've held one...Never shot it. Fit and finish is like most HK stuff. Best of the best. If you have a ton of money to blow the price wont bother you. HK doesn't really care if the average working stiff can afford their product...Never have. It's only over priced if you cant afford it,wont spend it or are happy with the many rifles that are phenomenal for 1/3 of the price
Ah... BF4... the most unrealistic combat game ever to exist. Where a 30-mm chain-gun requires 6 body-hits for a take-down.
Search utube for a UZI vs MP5 compare. Virtually the same gun, with the same accuracy. one is $500 to build from parts and the other is $2,000. Ironically, the uzi outperformed in full-auto overall.
Do you operate in harsh desert conditions where a weapon malfunction would cost you your life or the life of a teammate? Do you regularly perform water-born/submerged insertions into hostile environments and require the ability to fire immediately upon surfacing? Do you find yourself using your rifle or carbine in a suppressive fire/fire superiority role on a frequent basis? Does your operational intensity preclude you from performing regular maintenance on your rifle or carbine? Do you regularly find yourself short of CLP? Do you have the budget of Army Special Operations Command or Navy Special Warfare Group? Are you an HK fanboi or fangirl?
If you answered yes to 1 or more of the above questions, then you too may need an HK416.
People are really that dumb, and have that much money to blow on a piece up aluminum...disgusting.
Do you operate in harsh desert conditions where a weapon malfunction would cost you your life or the life of a teammate? Do you regularly perform water-born/submerged insertions into hostile environments and require the ability to fire immediately upon surfacing? Do you find yourself using your rifle or carbine in a suppressive fire/fire superiority role on a frequent basis? Does your operational intensity preclude you from performing regular maintenance on your rifle or carbine? Do you regularly find yourself short of CLP? Do you have the budget of Army Special Operations Command or Navy Special Warfare Group? Are you an HK fanboi or fangirl?
If you answered yes to 1 or more of the above questions, then you too may need an HK416.
It's probably an HK fanboi collector type who bought it hoping that in 3-5 years someone more insane than him will pay him 10K for it... and the sad thing is, he's probably right. (Recently someone here posted that there's like a 10K value bonus for having THE CARDBOARD BOX to go with an unfired PSG-1 HK rifle...) These collectors are full retard. If HK makes an ashtray and then stops making it it will appreciate in value by some stupid amount of money. The FFL/SOT types that found these lowers and declassified them are "real men of genius" to put it mildly. I wish I was that
lucky to have a $150 lower that someone would pay me $6800 for.
-Mike
So your saying I should not have missed placed my H&K ash tray and coffee cup from the late 80's early 90's ?
If HK had ever made a roll of say, commemorative HK94 toilet paper during the 80s it would probably be worth $1000 by now.
-Mike
Yea there legal. Your only going to find uppers, and on a few occasions there have been the legit 416d lowers on gunbroker lately. The real 416d lowers were selling for over $6k on gunbroker while the 416 uppers vary in price depending on the barrel length/ The 10.4', which requires a tax stamp when you install it on a lower, go for about $3k and up. Theres a 14.5" on gunbroker now with bids over $4k. The 16" and 20" 416 uppers are rare. Seen a 20" 416 upper sell for $10K on gunbroker.
From what I've read, the SCAR shits on both the M-16 and the HK416.
From what I've read, the SCAR shits on both the M-16 and the HK416.
Is that so? So why did special forces dump their SCARS?From what I've read, the SCAR shits on both the M-16 and the HK416.
From what I've read, the SCAR shits on both the M-16 and the HK416.
ProTip: Go take a class with any one of the leading carbine trainers in the US. I guarantee you at least 75% (it's probaby higher than this, but I'm being safe, for argument sake) of them are using a Tier-1 or Tier-2 DI gas rifle. That should probably tell you something...
-Mike
Mike, I agree with most of what you are saying. There are many reasons why LEAs and certain military branches contract for certain weapons, but when it comes to the ultra-elite forces (SEALs, Delta, etc.) they are able to choose whatever weapons they want. And, more often than not, they are taken Hk 416s as their assault rifles. Also, there is a big difference between match shooting and life risking military missions where the difference is life or death, not 1'st or 2'nd. I know someone who was one of the original Hk representatives (back when SACo was the importer) and he demo'd Hk weapons throughout the U.S., including to the famed Texas Rangers. And, he said that if money and politics were taken out of the equation, 9 out of 10 agencies would buy Hk products. That is saying something.
operationally speaking of course...I know someone who said he was an operator, and he said you are wrong.
I know someone who said he was an operator, and he said you are wrong.