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Westminster R&G closed due to neighbor complaints
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EMTDAD
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I would enlist an attorney to draft a letter to the Building inspector/zoning board citing the MGL that grandfathers them... Then continue to operate as normal. If they want to shut you down, let them get a court order.
IANAL.![[angry]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/008.gif "Angry [angry]")
IANAL.
dwarven1
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Screw the 270, I am one town over with a 300 Weatherby Mag![[smile]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/001.gif "Smile [smile]")
If someone will let me shoot as a guest, I can see if I can borrow Nickle's .338 Lapua. Nice loud rifle...
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I would consider living next to a gun club a benefit...
I would enlist an attorney to draft a letter to the Building inspector/zoning board citing the MGL that grandfathers them... Then continue to operate as normal. If they want to shut you down, let them get a court order.
IANAL.
I never would have guessed . . .
Someone may want to look into if there is a developer that has expressed interest in the land as well.
It wouldn't even be close to the first time a ZB has been caught with their hand in the cookie jar.
It's mighty thin that one person bitching that's not even close would be good reason to do what they did considering the many years the club has been in operation.
Second, screw playing nice, if they want to be d-bags then have someone get an estimate of how many units of low income housing could be stuffed onto that land.
See how much they want to play then.
It wouldn't even be close to the first time a ZB has been caught with their hand in the cookie jar.
It's mighty thin that one person bitching that's not even close would be good reason to do what they did considering the many years the club has been in operation.
Second, screw playing nice, if they want to be d-bags then have someone get an estimate of how many units of low income housing could be stuffed onto that land.
See how much they want to play then.
we all know where this is heading...
The club will likely win the noise complaint hearing. The complainant will then contact the EPA for lead/ground water contamination. Club will be shut again for a sort period of time . Club will be forced to spend tens of thousand of dollars to clean up, forced to shoot steel shot, etc etc
The problem is that this one person can outspend the club because he/she is using government money to force the issue, and the club uses it's own to defend
The club will likely win the noise complaint hearing. The complainant will then contact the EPA for lead/ground water contamination. Club will be shut again for a sort period of time . Club will be forced to spend tens of thousand of dollars to clean up, forced to shoot steel shot, etc etc
The problem is that this one person can outspend the club because he/she is using government money to force the issue, and the club uses it's own to defend
Or in a Nazi uniform because it's Hitlers birthday.
Till that person gets hit with a harassment lawsuit.
It's all fun and games till it's your bank account taking a hit.
Remember what Martha Coakley taught us.
You don't have to win, you just have to bankrupt them.
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Followed the link.
Ho Lee Fuk, the guy certainly is motivated!![[shocked]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/007.gif "Shocked [shocked]")
One thing to note: the section about the firearms training lists the guns that students may use. All are lawful for hunting in Mass. While many are not ideal....they're all legal for some game, in some zones.
Ho Lee Fuk, the guy certainly is motivated!
One thing to note: the section about the firearms training lists the guns that students may use. All are lawful for hunting in Mass. While many are not ideal....they're all legal for some game, in some zones.
People should start complaining that the noise coming from his house while at the club is disturbing and needs to stop. I am sure several hundred complaints against him while using a lawnmower or chainsaw can effectly put him in the same straights.
Romokid
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Bingo.
And as was also mentioned, there is a rumor that he is trying to develope the land to build houses.
Mans' been on a crusade. I dug up the archive for Westminster residents to defend against this.
He's also newly elected to the planning board, http://www.westminster-ma.gov/planning-board
Directly above that pic:
Is it possible that this guy actually doesn't know the difference between an arrow and a bullet? I'd love to hear confirmation from the Police that "bullets from the archery range" was an actual complaint.
The more I'm hearing , the more this sounds like someone looking to make a killing on building a development either on the land the club owns or adjoining it .
Seeing as this guy just got on the planning board.
It might be time to contact a good investigative reporter.
In the late 80's the entire board of selectmen in Amesbury ended up under federal indictment over a cute land deal they tried to pull.
It was a reporter who dug up the dirt and got it out.
Don't even bother with Maura's office, 'cuse guns and all.
Seeing as this guy just got on the planning board.
It might be time to contact a good investigative reporter.
In the late 80's the entire board of selectmen in Amesbury ended up under federal indictment over a cute land deal they tried to pull.
It was a reporter who dug up the dirt and got it out.
Don't even bother with Maura's office, 'cuse guns and all.
Asaltweapon
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It's very common for people with a personal agenda get on town boards. Worse than that they move from one board to another pushing their agenda. Most recently I know a guy who now sidesteps the boards and gets elected to discussion or study groups and becomes chairman. He has been doing so for the last 4 years.
As a somewhat outside observer originally from the South, I see much more of this stuff here than below the Mason Dixon Line. While down yonder it's the good ol' boy network, here it's sneaky, shady deals like what could be happening to Westminster R&G. I live close and the zoning in my town has been completely FUBAR. Developers pretty much get whatever they want. They are somehow able to get property re-zoned to suit their wants then skirt around the rules an average Joe must follow.
Does this Fortin tool have any history of ties to development or land purchase for profit?
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LOL, thanks
