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Virginia woman mauled to death by her dogs
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I love pit bulls. If this is true, she did not have control of her dogs. Better her than someone else. Not everyone has what it takes to properly be the alpha and socialize their dogs. For those people, there are other animals available that they should choose instead.
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"B-but its not tha dogs fault!!1!"
Pitbulls- the dindu's of the dog world.
Pitbulls- the dindu's of the dog world.
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Any real dog can bite or maul somone, people with tiny dogs rarely train them so they have vicious little mosters with a "small man complex".
Pitbulls and alot of the fake news(in many cases its not a pitbull)
Are just like the media and "assult weapons".
Not every dog (or human)from an entire breed(or race) can be bad.
Its just the prevelence of retards owning this particular breed and poor people not being able to afford the animals they have..
I know that sounds heartless but poor people should not have pets or kids until they can afford them...and often times your better off with a pet then children even if you can afford children.
The last thing this world needs is more unwanted pets( or people)
Pitbulls and alot of the fake news(in many cases its not a pitbull)
Are just like the media and "assult weapons".
Not every dog (or human)from an entire breed(or race) can be bad.
Its just the prevelence of retards owning this particular breed and poor people not being able to afford the animals they have..
I know that sounds heartless but poor people should not have pets or kids until they can afford them...and often times your better off with a pet then children even if you can afford children.
The last thing this world needs is more unwanted pets( or people)
Exactly, pit bulls can be had very easily. Buy one, chain it up, don't train it, and don't socialize it....you'll have a problem on your hands. Which is true with many breeds.
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Some purticular lines are just wild and thick headed, very difficult to train.
But there breed for show and competition..a pulling dogs going to wanna pull and without extensive traing for the first 2 years there going to pull and be unmanage animals. You cannt have a bear live in your house and not be a bear.
I pursposely never use a leash for the first year, it comes with serious risks to your pup. But i dont want a dog i can take anywhere or have to tie up when im at a party.
I also never make my dog wear a collar unless we're playing "dress up"
Its not as gay as it sounds, its all nice leather stuff.....wait im not helping myself
But there breed for show and competition..a pulling dogs going to wanna pull and without extensive traing for the first 2 years there going to pull and be unmanage animals. You cannt have a bear live in your house and not be a bear.
I pursposely never use a leash for the first year, it comes with serious risks to your pup. But i dont want a dog i can take anywhere or have to tie up when im at a party.
I also never make my dog wear a collar unless we're playing "dress up"
Its not as gay as it sounds, its all nice leather stuff.....wait im not helping myself
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When he was younger, my Westie was the alpha who socialized me.
He is now elderly, and needs help getting around, so he lets me be the alpha. He used to fight me if I tried to pick him up. Now, he walks over to me and waits to be carried up the stairs, plus he curls up with his back to me at night (I think he figures I will cover his 6).
He is now elderly, and needs help getting around, so he lets me be the alpha. He used to fight me if I tried to pick him up. Now, he walks over to me and waits to be carried up the stairs, plus he curls up with his back to me at night (I think he figures I will cover his 6).
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The only pit-types I've ever met who were a**h***s, were raised by a**h***s.
By deliberate breeding, pits are not supposed to be aggressive to humans, at all. That goes back to actual pit fighting, when both dog handlers would be in the pit with them, and any dog that was aggressive towards a person would be immediately put down.
Notice I said "pit-types", because there's not really any one "pit bull", and there have been many pit-types bred to be aggressive and violent, by people who are aggressive and violent.
I've only ever owned one pit, and she's the 3 year old we adopted who is pretty much the prototype for the American Pit Bull Terrier type. Slender waist, 60 pounds, silly rose ears, and loves all people. Dog aggressive? She rolls over and shows her belly to our Golden Retriever (who lost his nuts at 16 weeks of age). The most dangerous thing about her is that she sleeps with/on you like a 60 pound bowling ball with sharp elbows.
Because my wife is a groomer and has worked in many vet clinics, we've had the occasion to meet at least dozens of pits, if not hundreds. I've never seen one who was human-aggressive.
We live not too far from the Stephen Huneck gallery, AKA "Dog Mountain", and visit regularly. There are dogs of all types and sizes there; their motto is "All Breeds, All Creeds, No Dogmas". Of identifiable breeds we've seen there, Golden Retrievers are probably the most common, then labs, and pit-types come in third or fourth.
It's a very chill place, because it's full of chill people and their dogs.
Dog Mountain, Home of Stephen Huneck Gallery
By deliberate breeding, pits are not supposed to be aggressive to humans, at all. That goes back to actual pit fighting, when both dog handlers would be in the pit with them, and any dog that was aggressive towards a person would be immediately put down.
Notice I said "pit-types", because there's not really any one "pit bull", and there have been many pit-types bred to be aggressive and violent, by people who are aggressive and violent.
I've only ever owned one pit, and she's the 3 year old we adopted who is pretty much the prototype for the American Pit Bull Terrier type. Slender waist, 60 pounds, silly rose ears, and loves all people. Dog aggressive? She rolls over and shows her belly to our Golden Retriever (who lost his nuts at 16 weeks of age). The most dangerous thing about her is that she sleeps with/on you like a 60 pound bowling ball with sharp elbows.
Because my wife is a groomer and has worked in many vet clinics, we've had the occasion to meet at least dozens of pits, if not hundreds. I've never seen one who was human-aggressive.
We live not too far from the Stephen Huneck gallery, AKA "Dog Mountain", and visit regularly. There are dogs of all types and sizes there; their motto is "All Breeds, All Creeds, No Dogmas". Of identifiable breeds we've seen there, Golden Retrievers are probably the most common, then labs, and pit-types come in third or fourth.
It's a very chill place, because it's full of chill people and their dogs.
Dog Mountain, Home of Stephen Huneck Gallery
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I wonder how many of the people here bashing pitbulls have actual first-hand experience with them, not whatever they read in the news.
As one example, some close friends have a pit, and he's a big baby. I wrestle him whenever I see him, which is only about once/year now because we moved away. Even though we are so rarely around him, I can tackle him and wrestle on the ground, and he has never come close to doing anything aggressive. He's so damn nice that when some douchebags broke into our friend's house, their pitbull didn't even get aggressive with the burglars. I'm a pretty firm believer in the upbringing, not the breed name.
As one example, some close friends have a pit, and he's a big baby. I wrestle him whenever I see him, which is only about once/year now because we moved away. Even though we are so rarely around him, I can tackle him and wrestle on the ground, and he has never come close to doing anything aggressive. He's so damn nice that when some douchebags broke into our friend's house, their pitbull didn't even get aggressive with the burglars. I'm a pretty firm believer in the upbringing, not the breed name.
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I have first hand experience with several pit bulls (friends’ dogs, friends of friends dogs). Only two of the four ever attacked somebody in front of me.
Bad owners + dogs with bad histories + a breed that can do some serious damage if it wants to = bad news.
Bad owners + dogs with bad histories + a breed that can do some serious damage if it wants to = bad news.
2016 U.S. Dog Bite Fatalities - DogsBite.org
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- Together, pit bulls (22) and rottweilers (2), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 77% of the total recorded deaths in 2016. This same combination also accounted for 76% of all fatal attacks during the 12-year period of 2005 to 2016.
- The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 12-year period. From 2005 to 2016, pit bulls killed 254 Americans, about one citizen every 17 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 43, a citizen every 102 days (Related graph).
zboys
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Those are not very good odds
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And in all honesty, the ones who never did attack anybody were always kept on an extremely short leash by their owners for fear of an incident. They never fully trusted them.
Now we’re admittedly talking about dogs and owners with issues. I’ve seen plenty at dog parks over the years who were perfectly cool, normal and trusted. The breed isn’t evil by any stretch, there are just lots and lots of bad, dangerous examples out there. Because of the people involved.
Its funny it seems the media treats pits like ARs and are the most mentioned on the media.
Sorry to say to you all if you have a a few dogs and one day they decide your the bottom bitch you might get the same treatment.
Any dog especially breads that have a genetic disposition to protect/hunt/kill can turn on anyone at any time.
Personally m more afraid of Akita,collies and those dogs that get out of their yard for the first time.
Sorry to say to you all if you have a a few dogs and one day they decide your the bottom bitch you might get the same treatment.
Any dog especially breads that have a genetic disposition to protect/hunt/kill can turn on anyone at any time.
Personally m more afraid of Akita,collies and those dogs that get out of their yard for the first time.
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NHCraigT
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Didn't sound like much of an actual "corpse".
From this link: Virginia woman killed in 'grisly mauling' by her dogs, cops say
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