Ultimate SHTF rifle???

Picton said:
By far the best SHTF rifle I own, and I own more than two or three.

I've long been curious how many fellow Vz58 brethren we have on NES. I think of it as a fairly "niche" rifle, but I'm pleased to see so many of them in this thread. There also seems to be a moderately strong correlation between Vz58 owners and FAL owners.

Good taste, that's for sure. [cheers]
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I wanted a VZ58. Now I also want a FAL.
 
PappyM3 said:
I think that’s a little dubious. AR maintenance is pretty low and it can easily be done by the user with simple tools. Keep a few cheap and light extractors on hand and you’re good to go.

What are people going to do in the apocalypse when their AK wears out a barrel?

The one benefit of the AK is that it operates better with less lube.
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I guess I never thought I'd be a 50k+ round ak47 warlord. I guess if SHTF that long I'll negotiate a work-from-home plan with my 20 year old concubines.
 
Broc said:
How NES sees themselves when the SHTF

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REALITY

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Me:
angry homer simpson GIF
 
happy to suggest something new: suppressed aug a3 with a scope, red dot, and light. the ergonomics are a bit shit for light activation, but 556 is everywhere, the rifle can take a beating, and it's easy to maneuver in tight spaces while the mushy trigger is "good enough" for a couple quick shots out at 50 meters.
 
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Agnotology said:
I was going more for the point you can make just about any caliber have any desired effect, excluding some smaller cartridges.

Which is to say, you can load a 9mm with a round that butters level 2. You can also load it with a round that devastates flesh. IIRC, 5.7 FMJ out of a 16" barrel (ala PS90) reaches 3100 fps, which means it will reliably penetrate 2 and . I know SS190 and L191 can do the same out of a standard 5.7 on 3A, and with velocities closer to 2000 fps, but those are the hard to get ones.
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Really pissed me off that they banned all of the most powerful 5.7 rounds . aren’t the black tips totally banned for civilians ?
 
LordOfGont said:
Really pissed me off that they banned all of the most powerful 5.7 rounds . aren’t the black tips totally banned for civilians ?
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Illegal to sell to civilians because they are a “pistol” cartridge and they can’t sell AP pistol ammo, because “cop killers” . Not sure about possession.
 
Tartakovsky said:
If SHTF, I’m going deep up north into the mountains. I doubt I’ll be grabbing mags off dead bodies. I’d likely be one of the dead bodies.


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How do you guys keep your workbenches so clean? I just can’t manage that…mostly I push aside the leftovers from the last project to start the next project…
 
Picton said:
My only problem with the Vz58 is that getting one basically put all my AKs out of a job. I slowly sold or traded all of them away, the last for a nice preban L1A1.

But I just picked up a Maadi this month, so I'm back on top now! It felt weird not having an AK. But SHTF will feature my Czechpoint Vz58, not my AK.
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Kinda want a Czechpoint vz58 now lol
 
Picton said:
I'll sell you mine. $23,000.

Don't lowball me. I know what I've got.


This is a joke. It's not for sale.
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Looks heavy though, my 74 is really light which is why I will be packing it in a post apocalyptical scenario in central MA.. Plus got the poison boolits :) I fired one years ago but remember nothing about it, is it a milled receiver?
 

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