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Only one person ended up shot by accident.
I get a kick out of these threads.
Spend some time in the .mil. You'll get 24/7 exposure to dangerous firearms handling. I was flagged every day several times at a minimum by loaded guns. Big deal. Life goes on. Only one person ended up shot by accident.
We used to dry fire at each other in the barracks for sight picture training via orders from the Drill's.
I get a kick out of these threads.
Spend some time in the .mil. You'll get 24/7 exposure to dangerous firearms handling. I was flagged every day several times at a minimum by loaded guns. Big deal. Life goes on. Only one person ended up shot by accident.
We used to dry fire at each other in the barracks for sight picture training via orders from the Drill's.
I thank you for your service but disagree with the methods.
I feel that muzzle discipline is a courtesy thing on top of a safety issue.
But, I can't think of a reason to have the finger on the trigger unless you're shooting or about to shoot (rifle shouldered, etc.)
That one guy that got shot was one guy too many.
Just sayin' . . .
what do you expect when they do this?
what do you expect when they do this?
I didnt serve for you, no need for the thanks.
Go look at some WWII photos - the most badass soldiers this country has ever seen. You'll be mortified by the firearm handling. some of it is laughably bad. But thats just how it was. They knew the risks. Take another badass from the same war, GEN Patton. He sat down range in between target stands WHILE he taught the firing range. He said he wanted to know what it was like to be shot at and wanted to hear how the bullets sounded when they flew past him. Thats how it was. His superior knew about it and no discipline action was taken. Not all shooting is like the NRA hand book. wide spectrum of whats the norm all over the world and has continue to get better as time goes on.
what do you expect when they do this?
Everybody's experience in the .mil is different.
With that said, after 7 years in, Nat. Guard and 82d Airborne, artillery, staff, mortar, and light infantry, stateside and combat, in training or out, I never once had a leader (officer or enlisted) that tolerated lax trigger discipline. Never once.
Getting swept is different; it's never bothered me. In fact, it's very difficult for a platoon to go patrolling and NOT have folks getting swept, unless you can guarantee that half your soldiers will be lefties.
But trigger discipline? Always.
It's been a long time since I served but I can't remember anything about trigger discipline training.
Weapons safety rule #3 in the USMC: "Keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you are ready to fire." It was stressed routinely.
by Dcmdon: One other thing. The finger off the trigger protocol is barely 25 years old. Look at any picture from WWII or even Vietnam and fingers are almost always on the trigger.
When were you in the Marines? I think the following is probably true. I was in the Army in 1967.
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/31/opinion/china-tiananmen-uyghurs/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
Politics aside, Do they not teach trigger discipline over there?
Jeez.
Only an elite few are allowed to have ammo.
Usually only in training, in war or if deemed "politically reliable"
I had a student who, during his time in the Chinese .mil only fired a "handful" of rounds during training.
Then again, I could be wrong. Life is cheap over there, maybe it is in the budget to lose a few due to ND.