You can get plenty of used P220s for under $700, and sometimes under 600 if you look hard enough.
-Mike
Is it just me or does the P220 consistently go for less than the 226/229?
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You can get plenty of used P220s for under $700, and sometimes under 600 if you look hard enough.
-Mike
Is it just me or does the P220 consistently go for less than the 226/229?
After four pages, it's time to ask the OBVIOUS question:
When is it a BAD time to get a .45?
Maybe it's my American bravado....but it's always time for a .45. It's like Miller time! The only reason I carry .40 is because MA won't let me carry a gun that holds enough .45.
After four pages, it's time to ask the OBVIOUS question:
When is it a BAD time to get a .45?
When the cost of a box of .45's costs $58. at WalMart.
(I know it doesn't yet.)
When the cost of a box of .45's costs $58. at WalMart.
(I know it doesn't yet.)
I have one word of advice for you. Are you listening, Ben?
RELOAD.
In which case, the cost of every OTHER caliber will also have risen.
There is also an alternative.
Is reloading getting better? I know many complained about price and availability a few months ago.
Is it just me or does the P220 consistently go for less than the 226/229?
Is reloading getting better? I know many complained about price and availability a few months ago.
There was never a problem with price and availability of components. The prices went up but not by leaps and bounds. Only an endless train of whiners. Worst time was the winter of 08/09 after Obama got elected, and even then I had no trouble getting boxes of primers sporadically- and that's where the only real trouble spot was. Some component producers had shortages, too, but nothing waiting a week or two didn't fix. Savings are still about 50% on pistol ammo. I make .45 ACP for what it used to cost me to buy it back in 2004. (Like $9.25 a box) The lead casting crew types pay even less than that, assuming they have a cheap source of lead.
-Mike
there were a lot of issues getting primers nationwide for awhile last year
Not really, although there are more of them out there. In general any non-railed P series sig costs a lot less than the new ones.
-Mike
There was never a problem with price and availability of components. The prices went up but not by leaps and bounds. Only an endless train of whiners. Worst time was the winter of 08/09 after Obama got elected, and even then I had no trouble getting boxes of primers sporadically- and that's where the only real trouble spot was. Some component producers had shortages, too, but nothing waiting a week or two didn't fix. Savings are still about 50% on pistol ammo. I make .45 ACP for what it used to cost me to buy it back in 2004. (Like $9.25 a box- for you WWB val pak folks that's like $18.50/100. ) The lead casting crew types pay even less than that, assuming they have a cheap source of lead.
-Mike
Now, I am guessing I can't fire reloads down a .40 Glock because of the riffling issues? That price is a hell of a lot better than what I pay for .45 ACP now.
To the OP, I would personally suggest that you stay away from the Ruger line of guns. They seem like they're good enough quality, but good old Bill Ruger stabbed us all in the back WRT the 94 AWB. He's not getting any of my money, but YMMV.
Like most other products, if you have the time and the money you can get just about any non-compliant handgun in Mass. The good thing about most Glocks is that they're on the EOPS roster, so a lot of them appear on the secondhand market if a cop buys it and sells it later on. I've found that the trick to finding a gun like that in Mass. is to watch the local want ads and the Classifieds here like a hawk for what you want, with cash in hand, and then pounce as soon as you see one. It's not like a free state where you can just walk into a store and buy one, but they do pop up from time to time.
But logic still applies; if you want something exceptionally rare to the US market in general like a Vektor CP1 or a Glock 25 /28, the odds of finding one shrink to nearly impossible in a state like Mass. It does happen from time to time though.
Underwhere pulled his M&P apart in post #7 of this thread, and he didn't think it was that sturdy. I've never owned an M&P though.
Now, I am guessing I can't fire reloads down a .40 Glock because of the riffling issues? That price is a hell of a lot better than what I pay for .45 ACP now.
Think about it, have you ever once seen on this board of over 10,000 users, anyone say anyting critical of a 1911?
Chris
Bunches
But I love my 1911. It's really up to personal preference which gun you'll get. Shoot em all, or make a decision based on what you can find when you decide to buy.
OK, perhaps I exaggerated to some extent, but investigation will prove a very high ratio (50:1 ??) on this board of pro 1911 to con 1911. There's a reason why a 100+ year old design is still popular and revered. In fact, read the firearm press. Those new to firearms (and with limited vocabularies) may think the pistol is officially called the "Venerable 1911". I was skeptical at first as well, in fact, I sold my first 1911 to someone on this board (and if you're reading this, Dave, I'll buy it back from you any time) because it did not feel right to me. I needed to give it more time to get used to the single action trigger. Now, I shoot my 1911s better than any other firearm I own.
Chris
He's -dead- too (Bill Ruger Sr, the man that uttered that quote) so he's really not getting any of your money. The Ruger of AWB fame is no longer. They even sell normal capacity Mini-14 mags now.
-Mike
Not really, although there are more of them out there. In general any non-railed P series sig costs a lot less than the new ones.
there were a lot of issues getting primers nationwide for awhile last year
Now, I am guessing I can't fire reloads down a .40 Glock because of the riffling issues? That price is a hell of a lot better than what I pay for .45 ACP now.
OK, perhaps I exaggerated to some extent, but investigation will prove a very high ratio (50:1 ??) on this board of pro 1911 to con 1911. There's a reason why a 100+ year old design is still popular and revered.
All i know is I would want a full stainless frame with a stainless slide.