Supreme Court - NYSRPA v. Bruen - Megathread

[Hoover]

reverse seniority. Barrett and Kavanugh will NOT have opinions today.

My error.

 

[Hoover]

What ever happened to emancipation day?

A white POTUS is credited with it. I’m fine with recognizing the last slaves freed but the holiday was signed as a political move and will be used to divide the country by democrats

 

[Hoover]

An opinion from Alito so only Alito, Breyer, Thomas and Roberts could issue still today.

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

VEGA v. TEKOH. Held: A violation of the Miranda rules does not provide a basis for a §1983 claim.

Section 1983 provides a cause of action against any person acting under color of state law who “subjects” a person or “causes [a person] to be subjected . . . to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws.” The question we must decide is whether a violation of the Miranda rules provides a basis for a claim under §1983. We hold that it does not

But they don't say what the remedy is when the government violates your rights with respect to the Miranda rule. So, cross that off the list.

 

[Coyote33]

VEGA v. TEKOH. Held: A violation of the Miranda rules does not provide a basis for a §1983 claim.


But they don't say what the remedy is when the government violates your rights with respect to the Miranda rule. So, cross that off the list.

How many actual laws have an actual penalty against the government? I'm guessing like 98% do not.

 

[Hoover]

NYSRPA is here! Thomas too! 6-3 Roberts joins.

Last case of today

 

[pdm]

6-3 by Thomas

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Jesus 135 pages. There goes my morning.

 

[pdm]

6-3 by Thomas

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

Held: New York’s proper-cause requirement violates the Fourteenth Amendment by preventing law-abiding citizens with ordinary self-defense needs from exercising their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms in public for self-defense. Pp. 8–63.

 

[pdm]

It's going to take some parsing, but this looks like it'll impact the MA licensing scheme.

 

[Hoover]

Jesus 135 pages. There goes my morning.

Lol. Early reading sounds good. Sounds like Thomas is rejecting the 2 step bs the 9th and other courts are using. It sounds like it’s what we wanted to hear.

 

[Goliathan]

NYSRPA v. BRUEN is decided! 6-3 IN FAVOR OF THE 2A

"The court holds that New York's "proper-cause" requirement to obtain a concealed-carry license violates the Constitution by preventing law-abiding citizens with ordinary self-defense needs from exercising their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms in public for self-defense."

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

 

[doxdsgn]

One for the good guys!!!!!!

 

[pdm]

(1) It is undisputed that petitioners Koch and Nash—two ordinary, law-abiding, adult citizens—are part of “the people” whom the Second Amendment protects. See Heller, 554 U. S., at 580. And no party disputes that handguns are weapons “in common use” today for self-defense. See id., at 627. The Court has little difficulty concluding also that the plain text of the Second Amendment protects Koch’s and Nash’s proposed course of conduct—carrying handguns publicly for self-defense. Nothing in the Second Amendment’s text draws a home/public distinction with respect to the right to keep and bear arms, and the definition of “bear” naturally encompasses public carry. Moreover, the Second Amendment guarantees an “individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation,” id., at 592, and confrontation can surely take place outside the home. Pp. 23–24.

I like the sound of that!

 

[Mesatchornug]

VEGA v. TEKOH. Held: A violation of the Miranda rules does not provide a basis for a §1983 claim.


But they don't say what the remedy is when the government violates your rights with respect to the Miranda rule. So, cross that off the list.

I know this is a tangent, but

isn't that the WHOLE POINT of Miranda?!

 

[Hoover]

Thomas talks about sensitive places too and says broad areas as sensitive places won’t fly. So he preemptively attacks the sensitive place restrictions these anti 2A hellholes will try.

 

[Wooderson]

I know this is a tangent, but

isn't that the WHOLE POINT of Miranda?!

Miranda exists because mothers stopped slapping their kids for talking out of turn.

Hush yo mouf.

 

[rep308]

We win!

WSJ - The Supreme Court struck down New York state’s system for issuing concealed weapons permits, ruling that the century-old law requiring that applicants demonstrate “proper cause” and “good moral character” violates the Second Amendment.

 

[JoseyWales]

So, is it a broad or narrow ruling?

 

[kalash]

I'm sure NYC will respond to having to lose the proper cause requirement by making licenses cost $10k or capping them to 5 for the whole city or implementing a proficiency test where you shoot a derringer to 1000 yards.

That said, it's fantastic news that SCOTUS finally recognizes the right to keep and bear arms in public.

 

[Hoover]

It’s Thomas’s birthday. 74 years young today.

 

[ChevyGuy91]

We win!

WSJ - The Supreme Court struck down New York state’s system for issuing concealed weapons permits, ruling that the century-old law requiring that applicants demonstrate “proper cause” and “good moral character” violates the Second Amendment.

If that's the case, why even having a licensing scheme at all? They should have just said licensing schemes are unconstitutional and left no wiggle room.

 

[SFC13557]

YES! Finally! NYC and Mike Bloomberg, Comrade Bill and Eric Adams. Hopefully NYer's flock to their precinct's to apply and turn the city around, back to a safe city where criminals are afraid of the Cops and citizens instead of vice versa. It's Thomas's bday according to Bill Hemmer on FOX, Happy Birthday Clarence!

 

[Hoover]

So, is it a broad or narrow ruling?

Seems pretty broad thus far. Any regulations must be consistent with the history and text. Basically what we wanted

 

[Toast]

It's going to take some parsing, but this looks like it'll impact the MA licensing scheme.

Sure it will. After, oh, 10 years of lawsuits up through the MASC, which will result in no changes. Then, we'll have 5 years of federal lawsuits, followed by a return to the SC. Then something may change.

 

[KAG Arms]

The decision is in:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

What a victory.

"Held: New York’s proper-cause requirement violates the Fourteenth Amendment by preventing law-abiding citizens with ordinary self-defense needs from exercising their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms in public for self-defense"

 

[Hoover]

I'm sure NYC will respond to having to lose the proper cause requirement by making licenses cost $10k or capping them to 5 for the whole city or implementing a proficiency test where you shoot a derringer to 1000 yards.

That said, it's fantastic news that SCOTUS finally recognizes the right to keep and bear arms in public.

The opinion is making clear that’s not allowed. It’s a right and greatly restricting that right is not constitutional.

 

[AHM]

Taxi drivers are not important people like those who qualify for NYC carry permits are.

Taxi drivers spent more money getting their medallion
than the beautiful people spent bribing licensing officials.
Possibly even including the money which the beautiful people
pissed away signaling their importance; importance frequently
only present inside their own heads.

I know this is a tangent, but

isn't that the WHOLE POINT of Miranda?!

Miranda protects the ignorant against a spectrum of infringements.
The remedy for each infringement must be specific.

 

[SFC13557]

Supreme Court Strikes Down New York Law on Concealed Weapons​

from today's WSJ.

"The Supreme Court struck down New York state’s system for issuing concealed weapons permits, ruling that the century-old law requiring that applicants demonstrate “proper cause” and “good moral character” violates the Second Amendment.
The 6-3 decision, New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen, marks the widest expansion of gun rights since 2010, when the court applied nationwide a 2008 ruling establishing an individual right of armed self-defense within the home. It puts in question similar laws in at least eight other states and the District of Columbia, where authorities hold substantial discretion over issuing concealed-weapons permits.

While Republican-leaning states have been loosening gun regulations over the past decade, California, Hawaii and more urban states in the Northeast have maintained their traditional limits on concealed weapons."
Write to Jess Bravin at [email protected]

The bitch in Albany is already whining, not about muskets DB.

 

[bigbravehog]

It's going to take some parsing, but this looks like it'll impact the MA licensing scheme.

MA pols don't obey laws