MisterHappy
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Secured by a cable lock just through the firearm or locked container?
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Locked container for transport, unloaded.
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Secured by a cable lock just through the firearm or locked container?
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So unloaded handguns do not need to be in a locked container for transport?
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They must be unloaded and secured, unless under your direct control. See my post #5
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It would most likely meet the definition of direct control, but you need to take it from the holster, and put in on your person, or secure it for storage per MGLs every time you get out of the car.
So unloaded handguns do not need to be in a locked container for transport?
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OK, so to further beat this to death... the answer is, to leave your pistol in your car (that is, to "store it") it needs to be unloaded and stored in a locked container (or trigger locked or...).
So, and I know we've been here before but I don't remember the answer: What's does case law consider "unloaded"?? Mag out of the pistol and right next to it, yes?? That's what I've been doing for years, but...
Mr Happy You are wrong.
Show me where the law says unloaded handguns must be under your direct control. Your response is an example of the tribal passing on of incorrect information.
With that said, I wouldn't advocate it because most cops are like Mr Happy.
Actually Mr Happy had distinguished himself as one of the more knowledgable people here.
And he got this wrong. This demonstrates why you need to READ THE LAWS every time you are going to discuss them. Because our mind makes assumptions.
Don
Section 131C. (a) No person carrying a loaded firearm under a Class A license issued under section 131 or 131F shall carry the same in a vehicle unless such firearm while carried therein is under the direct control of such person. Whoever violates the provisions of this subsection shall be punished by a fine of $500.
Also note that violation of this piece of the statute is a civil infraction only punishable by a fine.
They must be unloaded and secured, unless under your direct control
Don: Note what I said (cut and paste, bold added): If it's not under your direct control, it must be unloaded and secured. That's the law. If it is under your control, you can have it loaded or not. I was replying to J40's question.
I think you missed the "unless" in my post.
Again, this is for Transport, not Storage.
Ok. I dont' know what you mean by secured. But handguns that are unloaded, per the law, do NOT have to be in a locked container or under your direct control.
There is no language in the law that restricts how unloaded handguns must be transported. So there is no requirment for transporting an unloaded handgun.
Section 131C. (a) No person carrying a loaded firearm under a Class A license issued under section 131 or 131F shall carry the same in a vehicle unless such firearm while carried therein is under the direct control of such person. Whoever violates the provisions of this subsection shall be punished by a fine of $500.
If you disagree, please cite language in the law.
While still vague, to my reading, due to the juxtaposition of "Class A" in 131C.(a) and "Class B" in 131C.(b), which you skipped over, there is indeed such language, to wit:
"131C.(b) No person carrying a firearm under a Class B license issued under section 131 or 131F shall possess the same in a vehicle unless such weapon is unloaded and contained within the locked trunk of such vehicle or in a locked case or other secure container. Whoever violates the provisions of this subsection shall be punished by a fine of $500."
So 131C.(a) states how the holder of a Class A license may transport loaded and 131C.(b) states how the holder of a Class B must transport unloaded, yet it makes no reference to how the holder of a Class A may transport unloaded.
^^ Your site is for storage and not transport, correct? That would only apply when the vehicle is parked and you are not inside?
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edit: hold on lol