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Then all the more reason to not show up on day 2 of the apocalypse 50lbs overweight, untrained, and holding an SKS. No one wants that guy on their team in gym class.
Tribes need cooks, supply officers, comms people, builders, mechanics, etc, too. Lard types might not be suitable as fighters but they can do other stuff.
True. On the other side of the equation, about 20 years ago I bought an unfired Winchester 9422 high grade with the coon & hound engraving for next to nothing. I keep it in the back of the safe in a silicone gun sock. It's still in factory new condition and it's done nothing but go up in value every year.
People here underestimate lots of cartridges. .22lr for example. My buddy was mad at a buck for eating his bushes years ago, and he tried to shoot it in the ass with a .22 SHORT just to scare it. He must have hit it right in the heart as the thing dropped stone dead. Full siized buck, .22 short. I mean that was a miracle shot, but still.
Would you say people are different now? How about America in general? I'm not saying a depression will turn to Mad Max. Genuine question.
If this is what you want then I would buy a 1/2 dozen 10/22’s and all the ammo and magazines I could. You would be standardized on a reliable platform. One of your minions shooting a threat would likely take that threat out of the game to be cared for. I read a story once about a man would would come to town every so often and buy a .22lr. Rifle and box of ammo. When someone asked what he was going to do with them he said he was going to give them to his neighbors to defend us against the coming war. Theorizing that you could shoot a threat with a .22 and they likely could would be taken out of the fight. And then possibly pick up a suitable gun from the battlefield.
Yup, but the first priority is security, which leads into the reality. Unless a group has enough people to supply two people(working shifts) for each sector of fire of your home/compound, then you’re just waiting to be overrun in the middle of the night without even a shot fired. Then you also need all the people supporting food, water, and other sustainment, probably in greater quantities than your defensive needs. Tooth to tail is usually a pretty lopsided ratio, even when you don’t factor in all the military specific supplies/repairs.
I dont know, I can't tell how different people are.
Community defense needs are different than self/home defense needs when it comes to terminal ballistics. Self/home defense is generally very close and sudden, and you need to incapacitate the threat as quickly as possible. If you’re just worried about making some guy who’s a hundred yards away think twice or have to leave the area for medical treatment, 22lr isn’t terrible. Not great, but not terrible.
I do not think the point here is a capability of a caliber or a weapon - it is a lack of a capability of an isolated family to survive, pretty much anything. For thousands of years humans settled as clans, for a reason. Family members, even if disagreeable at times, where still a singular fighting unit under a single leadership of elders. Modern way of life pulled that safety layer out completely.
One can look at chimpanzee groups. The little ones that are mostly immediate family frequently have their territory raided by larger groups. The small groups either flee and have to find new territory or get killed.
Sks is not a bad gun, zero it at 20 yard and it good out to 250 yards,just that u need to buy a good supply of stripper clips 4 it, bxn clip,blk color after market clips not working good at all.and sks user need a wondernine as a back up, just incase bad guy get close.
Since this is NE, and you are a qualified operator, I am sure you already know an SKS is more than capable, there are barely any chances to shoot past 100 yards in New England, better to have something reliable that doesn't need cleaning and is more than capable of putting 30 shots in a human size target at 100 yards than a super tight gun that can get 1/4 MOA and needs very specific ammo or it jams.
Weird that OP is insistent that his "co-operators" arent armed as well as he is. Either you trust them in a fight and you want them well armed or you dont trust them and you dont want them armed at all. Its almost like he envisions having to defend himself from them at some point .
Lets hope so. I can see encouraging friends to get themselves firearms and train with them, but i could think of a lot better ways to spend my money than buying a half dozen obsolete rifles for people I dont fully trust
I'm enjoying this (my) somewhat lighthearted imaginary post-'pocalyose thread. Those of you who aren't should probably avoid. If the only people who survive a an imaginary apocalypse are as humorless and literal-minded as those not enjoying this thread, I am not sure I would want to survive. But I think most people are enjoying this not quite serious look at the apocalypse and my inexpensive plots and plans that help me navigate the uncertainties and reversals of modern life.
Ok, now I’m drawing the line. I actually like SKSs, but anyone that converts one to take AK mags is definitely not welcome in my post-apocalyptic team!!!
