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1. You need a specific reason to get approvedI'm in RI a lot (GF), so I think this would make some sense getting it just in case. I have applied for my MA non-res because I work there/ here. I think I found the app for resident/ non-residents but it looks pretty old and copied slightly crooked. Can someone confirm this is it? I really need all that stuff, fingerprints, notorized, pictures, explanation, etc. No wonder I said screw it a few months ago . I read something about passing a shooting test?
Why can't you just fill out a few things, mail it in, and get it a few weeks later... like in NH?? What a pain!
Congratulations. You have a little time to save your money up to hire the lawyer again 4 years from now to get your renewal. Good luck with that.As a TX resident who travels the northeast a lot and has been thru the process I thought I would offer some advice to anyone considering apply for a non resident pistol permit from the AG BCI unit (I just received mine in early August):
This is from a PDF on the AG's website:
So, they "shall issue" if you can demonstrate a "proper reason."
Any one know if "I live next to RI, carry all the time there,and don't want to have to take it off when I cross the border" is a "proper reason?"
You were doing pretty well until this part.....which is not easy...
So you are just applying a higher standard than is prescribed in the RI Statute? Good to know you want applicants to jump through more hoops than the State asks for.Shooting from "seated position" at L Army??? Not with me you don't. If my name goes on that target.
To be honest, I think it's a bullshit requirement that doesn't apply in the least to the practice of concealed carrying.Yep. I have seen people qualify with red dot Bullseye gun. Nothing in the law about that either. Scoring 195 out of 300 on Army L with the caliber you intend to carry should be no problem. Just an elementary proficiency with the firearm. Not that much of a hoop, no?
When I give the RI test, I have a simple criteria for pass - could I truthfully testify that the individual met the required performance while following the procedures established in the RI statutes - no more, no less.Actually, shooting seated had nothing to do with the distance, Sergeis64.
The arbitrary and most ridiculous procedures established by a bunch of whining [email protected] in Providence? Shame on you.When I give the RI test, I have a simple criteria for pass - could I truthfully testify that the individual met the required performance while following the procedures established in the RI statutes - no more, no less.
I am referring to the range test. My other options are:
There is no duty to retreat in Rhode Island.Actually, shooting seated had nothing to do with the distance, Sergeis64. I could have shot standing and felt just fine that far away from the Army-L target. I was however, using a gun provided by my NRA instructor (a beautiful Wilson Combat 1911 .45) that was considerably bigger and heavier than I normally use to train with at my local range, so it felt more comfortable at a bench rest position (I wanted to qualify with as big of caliber as possible). My normal carry is a Glock 23 which is much smaller, lighter and only a .40. But again, you have to play the game that the RI AG BCI puts in front of applicants about qualifying and that means with the biggest possible caliber you can and in any stance you can (BTW...I have a friend that is wheel chair bound and has his conceal carry...he can only shoot at the range from the bench rest).
What I find truly ironic, is that you would never fire a round from that distance in a threat situation because RI law REQUIRES a duty to retreat anyway!
But you actually require more than the statute states by not allowing seated position. The statute does not specify the shooting position, so there is an option.I do completely agree with Rob. That is what was expected of me when I did my qualification, that is what I expect from people I qualify. There are people issuing MA Basic pistol certificates without even having taught the class. I am not one of them. As I stated above I will help and give instruction to anybody who needs it, free of charge. But I will ask people to follow same criteria as Rob stated.
Which is interesting because when I took it I was told that you needed to be standing unsupported and that's how I qualified.But you actually require more than the statute states by not allowing seated position. The statute does not specify the shooting position, so there is an option.
So did I, and in fact I never thought about seated position until the poster in this thread mentioned it. I don't see any reason seated position is NOT allowed in the statute.Which is interesting because when I took it I was told that you needed to be standing unsupported and that's how I qualified.
Yes. If it is not in statute, it is not the law. The law is not common sense. It is the law. If it is not in the law, it is legal. That's how laws work. You seem to have a very poor understanding of jurisprudence and I for one would never touch you as an instructor. You sound like a statist if I ever met one…WHY would it be specifically allowed in the statute? By same token one can argue that they have every right to shoot the test seated, with bench rest, scoped gun with red dot.Do we have to write statute to every minute detail or common sense prevail? In any case, conversation is becoming pointless. I am not forcing anybody to qualify with me- plenty others. Person that provided Wilson Combat 1911 to the above-mentioned applicant is ten times better instructor and shooter than me.