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Oh I was going to say that pistol and sight are awesomeze prezense of the adapter plate. sits too high.
Iron Sights focus on Front Sight. Red Dot? Focus on Target.
I took a Red Dot Class with this Instructor. Made all the difference.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwI0wIedlg8
That's something I didn't consider, so good point. I suppose that's because I don't like the thought of a plate and have tried to avoid those systems. But if I could afford a Staccato, I think I'd still give it a go.
But for flush mount optics, it seems really weird to me to not find the dot. It would be like presenting without a dot and being so off on irons that you don't see one of them.
Meh.ze prezense of the adapter plate. sits too high.
I did not pay much attention to it until I got scs setup on g34… but now, when I know of how the alternative can feel - it is rather annoying.Meh.
I have six pistols with dots on them. Three of them have the slide cut to narrow the angle between line of sight and bore, three of them don’t.
Two of these are buckmarks with optic mounted on rail. They’re the ones with the most extreme angle.
All are zerod at 31 feet. I do tend to shoot a little low at very close range, but not horribly.
Pick a distance based on your shooting needs and zero to it. Adapter plate really isn’t going to make much difference.
CZWho milled the slide?
Are you sure the red dot is properly attached?...I tried with close to 100 rounds to zero it in…
It’s a holosun 407k properly attached.
It's not a good point because it is wrong. Plenty of people have been shooting with dots on frame mounts that sit well above the bore. They aren't any harder to find
Not doing that. It’s probably just improperly zeroed. I think I will try a boresight to make things simple if they are reasonably priced. Have you ever used a laser? I’m wondering if that could be fun.Are you sure the red dot is properly attached?
The one time I saw someone not hit anything with a handgun using a dot (that I knew was zeroed in), the guy was holding the handgun a little low and bringing his head to the dot, so he was shooting everywhere. Are you doing that?
I could see this having an impact if you did it to a gun you already were comfortable shooting with irons. The additional height over bore would change presentation a bit, so it would take muscle memory some reps to adjust.
Lasers are a waste of money in my opinion. I saw one guy using one in USPSA, it was funny AF, dude was super slow trying to get the laser on target.Not doing that. It’s probably just improperly zeroed. I think I will try a boresight to make things simple if they are reasonably priced. Have you ever used a laser? I’m wondering if that could be fun.
Not doing that. It’s probably just improperly zeroed. I think I will try a boresight to make things simple if they are reasonably priced. Have you ever used a laser? I’m wondering if that could be fun.
Not doing that. It’s probably just improperly zeroed. I think I will try a boresight to make things simple if they are reasonably priced. Have you ever used a laser? I’m wondering if that could be fun.
On some guns, a laser is pretty much the only option for me. My pocket gun is a Kahr PM9 and I’ve put a laser on it. I’ve also put a set of laser grips on my S&W Model 19.You need an extremely good index for a laser to be even slightly effective. Basically you need to be able to have your gun point exactly where you are looking without the use of sights
Yeah, you have to learn to accept the wobble. Focus on the target, not the dot.Some people have a hard time finding the "acceptable" time to pull the trigger with a dot because they see it constantly moving and it distracts them.
It's almost like a larger dot obscures (relatively) small movements better than a tiny one...Some people have a hard time finding the "acceptable" time to pull the trigger with a dot because they see it constantly moving and it distracts them. Irons sites do this too of course, but the brain is better at averaging relationships of things like iron sites and providing a "zone" that is acceptable for trigger pull.
If you struggle with a dot, try a donut site instead and see how it changes.
It's almost like a larger dot obscures (relatively) small movements better than a tiny one...
shooting off one hand you always wobble unless your muscles are made from steel. just need to time trigger release properly.But - you need to get wobble contained within the target area.
sorry, my ellipsis didn't fully convey my sarcasm. I may have been referring indirectly to another debate the other day.not "almost", that's exactly what happens.
Or to put it another way, it's easier to see the smaller dot dancing around the target.
I've been using a dot now for a while. Started using one about 8 or 10 years ago to shoot bowling pins with; moved to CarryOptics in IDPA/USPSA/SC the last couple of years. If you're a bullseye shooter and focusing on that perfect shot - you're going to be too slow for any action pistol sports. But - you need to get wobble contained within the target area.
I was focused on the dot- I need to properly zero it and try again.Yeah, you have to learn to accept the wobble. Focus on the target, not the dot.
On some guns, a laser is pretty much the only option for me. My pocket gun is a Kahr PM9 and I’ve put a laser on it. I’ve also put a set of laser grips on my S&W Model 19.
Lasers certainly aren’t optimal, but I can’t focus on the front sight anymore, so it’s the best option I’ve got.
One consideration with red dots is that they don't work for folks with astigmatism, or amblyopia.Appreciate your insight.
Yeah, that's never worked for me.There is no need to focus on the front sight.. see it, yes, have it in focus, no