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Agreed. I just went through mgl 121-131. Unless I missed it, it did not specifically say anything about personal builds. I guess it could fall into the grey area of “when it’s a complete rifle and capable of firing a shot it needs to fa10”. But nothin states that. I would hate to be the guy that gets busted with personal builds not on FA10 in this current crazy ghost gun time we are in.I will tell you this, In America, they don't create laws giving permission, only restricting. So it is assumed everything is legal unless there is a law stating otherwise. You will not find anything in MGL saying you do not have to register a gun you manufacture. I can say with 100% certainty there is no law saying you do.
Just make sure you have one upper for the feds and one upper for the stateOk I'm now an expert. Build a ton of sbrs and don't tell anyone. Got it
There are many legal reasons why you may be in possession of a firearm in MA that is not in the database. don't offer any info and there is no reason to get busted.....Agreed. I just went through mgl 121-131. Unless I missed it, it did not specifically say anything about personal builds. I guess it could fall into the grey area of “when it’s a complete rifle and capable of firing a shot it needs to fa10”. But nothin states that. I would hate to be the guy that gets busted with personal builds not on FA10 in this current crazy ghost gun time we are in.
Never happen, it’s not like they will make a database public or anything…..I don't know what everyone is so worried about,soon the new Governor, and AG will be coming to your homes and taking all your guns.
i just read three pages of nonsense spewing from your comments and still do not understand your stance on this issue .There are many legal reasons why you may be in possession of a firearm in MA that is not in the database. don't offer any info and there is no reason to get busted.....
Then there is the debate on the statute of limitations..... built it 8 years ago and forgot to do the FA10, was afraid to after 7 days had passed and did not want to incriminate myself, but statute of limitation have expired on prosecution so.........
@AMV This dude wasted 1 of his average of 2 messages per year on you.i just read three pages of nonsense spewing from your comments and still do not understand your stance on this issue .
stance is doing what is needed to stay within the law, but nothing morei just read three pages of nonsense spewing from your comments and still do not understand your stance on this issue .
i was just looking for a general summary on the fa10 sbr stance. i knew cape people were all weirdos, didnt know they were harsh too@AMV This dude wasted 1 of his average of 2 messages per year on you.
Wasn't being harsh. I was making the observation that you must really have something to say. But if you want to take it wrong go for it.i was just looking for a general summary on the fa10 sbr stance. i knew cape people were all weirdos, didnt know they were harsh too
without spewing, I will summarize it for you, Do an FA10 as neededi was just looking for a general summary on the fa10 sbr stance. i knew cape people were all weirdos, didnt know they were harsh too
im just into the sbr world lately , im not a poster just soak in knowledge when i can. always take a shot at cape people in good fun . ive never fa10 an sbr though its news to meWasn't being harsh. I was making the observation that you must really have something to say. But if you want to take it wrong go for it.
Us cape people are the same as off capers. Just more ball gags and leatherim just into the sbr world lately , im not a poster just soak in knowledge when i can. always take a shot at cape people in good fun . ive never fa10 an sbr though its news to me
hahah there it is i knew it ! have a good weekend sir. im over my limit see you next yearUs cape people are the same as off capers. Just more ball gags and leather
I read on GFA's website that "Due to recent changes in Massachusetts state law, we can no longer sell or transfer short barrel rifles (SBRs)." Does anyone know what this might be in reference to? And can anyone post here or PM me if they know of a Massachusetts FFL that will transfer an SBR on a Form 4?GFA in Natick does. I've never done a form 4. You definitely have to pay the $200 and probably a fee to the FFL to do the transfer. I believe Form 4s turnaround is quite awhile at least with suppressors they are
I take it you really didn't read anything in this thread, Post #2I read on GFA's website that "Due to recent changes in Massachusetts state law, we can no longer sell or transfer short barrel rifles (SBRs)." Does anyone know what this might be in reference to? And can anyone post here or PM me if they know of a Massachusetts FFL that will transfer an SBR on a Form 4?
I wouldn’t recommend taking the upper unless you already have an SBR.. in the case of an AR15 for example.. if you have another lower it is constructive intent for possessing the upper and not an SBR lower… sure you could say for in A.R. 15 pistol, but those are basically nonexistent in MassachusettsAn FFL willl not be involved, assuming you are in the same state. You complete a personal sale on a paper form 4 with the seller. Often times in these cases you will pay half and take the upper, the seller must hold the lower until the stamp is approved.
Plenty of fixed mag AR pistols in existence in MA, Constructive intent would be a hard thing to get jammed up for, especially with a pending form 1 or 4 on fileI wouldn’t recommend taking the upper unless you already have an SBR.. in the case of an AR15 for example.. if you have another lower it is constructive intent for possessing the upper and not an SBR lower… sure you could say for in A.R. 15 pistol, but those are basically nonexistent in Massachusetts
I didn’t even think of thatPlenty of fixed mag AR pistols in existence in MA, Constructive intent would be a hard thing to get jammed up for, especially with a pending form 1 or 4 on file
You’re trying to say constructive possession. If you’re getting jammed up for constructive possession you are in much bigger trouble for something else.I wouldn’t recommend taking the upper unless you already have an SBR.. in the case of an AR15 for example.. if you have another lower it is constructive intent for possessing the upper and not an SBR lower… sure you could say for in A.R. 15 pistol, but those are basically nonexistent in Massachusetts
Why would you register a lower?SBRs are considered "firearms" by Mass law, not pistols. Just on the EFA10, there is no option for "firearms" or "other". I have always registered my SBR lowers as a "rifle".
This x 1000Why would you register a lower?
As far as the state of MA is concerned, yes.Hmmm…..SBR’s are pistols in MA???……
what makes MA view SBR’s as pistols?As far as the state of MA is concerned, yes.
That does not relieve one of any of the federal requirements dealing with the NFA regulation of SBRs.
Because an MCX SBR costs like $1,000 less than an MCX rifle and new barrel and new hand guard.Why would anyone in MA buy an SBR and transfer on a form 4 (good luck), and wait like 9 months (eform4s are coming back around 270 days)? Why not just form1 and build it? eForm1 approvals are coming back in 30-50 days.
buy the pistol version and file a form 1 for the SBR , that's what most doBecause an MCX SBR costs like $1,000 less than an MCX rifle and new barrel and new hand guard.