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Places to carry concealed in Mass
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OfficerObie59
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Here? I've only been around here a little longer than you, and seems I've seen this issue covered before...
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everywhere except schools, federal facilities and where posted.
use your own mind. watch your six.
DickWanner
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Signage is not binding in MA...
Just make sure you don't start stating specific locations on the forum, there's a sticky somewhere(not sure where), but basically your not allowed to name places on the forums in the off chance somebody sees it and decides they don't want guns in said place.
I.E.: A grocery store manager sees their name here and puts up a big "NO Firearms" sign in the window.
this applies to hospitals and sporting arenas too.
I.E.: A grocery store manager sees their name here and puts up a big "NO Firearms" sign in the window.
this applies to hospitals and sporting arenas too.
Actually if they find out your carrying they can call the police and you can basically say goodbye to your license.
One of the ridiculousness parts of concealed carry in MA, even if a bulge is showing, and they have reason to think its a gun, you can face charges, and most likely permanent loss of license.
Even if the place your in is gun friendly, some anti-gun prick sees your gun, even the shape, and grounds for charges.
it happened to a buddy of mine, now he can't even own guns anymore. got his license revoked permanently in MA.
OK Concealed carry RIGHT!
How bout EVERYWHERE, and just keep your mouth shut about it
This is how I approach the issue
No Offense meant I am not actually telling you to keep quiet, Just saying how I handle it myself
How bout EVERYWHERE, and just keep your mouth shut about it
This is how I approach the issue
No Offense meant I am not actually telling you to keep quiet, Just saying how I handle it myself
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It depends on several factors - including the attitude of the responding officer and of the chief who issued the license. It is not a given that an officer who checks, sees you are polite and licensed, and willing to leave will contact your chief with a request for action - and, if (s)he does, it depends on the chief.
There are some chiefs who will apply common sense and look at the totality of the situation... and then, there are others who will not. Are you feeling lucky today?
What was the charge, location of the incident, and disposition?
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To clarify that policy is more for things like major sports/music events, etc. As far as signage in malls, hospitals, etc, who really cares? Everyone pretty much ignores those by default, anyways, as signage is not binding in MA.
-Mike
Interesting point. Many of the hospitals in the Longwood medical area are teaching hospitals ... does that automatically make them off-limits, or only if they're affiliated with, for example, Tufts Medical School?
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concealed MEANS CONCEALED... nuff said...
Garys
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This is not necessarily true. There was a thread on this a while back. In Boston, Harvard Medical School, Tufts Medical School, and the BU School of Medicine are separate from the hospitals the are affiliated with. At BU the demarcation between the medical school and the Boston Medical Center is quite clear even though the buildings are attached. Merely because residents, medical students, and doctors who are also professors of medicine work at affiliated hospitals does not make those hospitals college campuses.
FWIW, the only hospital I've ever seen clearly posted for no firearms was St. Luke's in New Bedford. That was back in the early and mid 1990s before they redid the Emergency Department. After the new place was built, the signage was not replaced.
Try searching here (Google works MUCH better than the abortion vB calls a search mechanism), it's been discussed before. People disagree. My personal position is that a hospital is just as much a "school" as my doctor's office, which when I went there 2 weeks ago he had two students interning in the office.
Garys
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To add to your position, in Boston all of the medical schools are patrolled by their respective universities PDs. That is BUSM is patrolled by BUPD, HMS is patrolled by HUPD, and TMS is patrolled by TUPD. On the other hand, all of the hospitals are patrolled by their respective security/PDs. Boston Medical Center has it's own PD, as does MGH, and Tufts. Most of the hospitals over at Longwood use private security companies, not their own in house people. None of the hospitals have, as some have in the past, names that reflect their medical school affiliations. Tufts has not been owned by Tufts University since the mid 1990s, University Hospital has been Boston Medical Center since the mid 1990s. Being a "teaching affiliate" for a medical school does not mean that you are part of that medical school.
My Cousin (severe diabetic) is a frequent resident of BMC, so I've been there to visit him a number of times.
I also had to serve legal papers on a research doctor in BU Medical School, which required coordinating with the Chief of BU Medical School Police and being escorted by a Lt. to the lab where the research doctor was working. Believe me, without an access badge for the Medical School, you're not getting anywhere near the "school" when you visit the hospital!!
I also had to serve legal papers on a research doctor in BU Medical School, which required coordinating with the Chief of BU Medical School Police and being escorted by a Lt. to the lab where the research doctor was working. Believe me, without an access badge for the Medical School, you're not getting anywhere near the "school" when you visit the hospital!!
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Everywhere and Anywhere
While I'm not disagreeing with the folks that say it is a Constitutional right to carry anywhere and everywhere, currently, state and Federal law puts restrictions on where you are technically allowed to carry concealed. The OP specifically asked where it was legal or illegal to carry concealed in MA, and stating that you believe you're allowed to carry everywhere does not actually answer the question. The law is the law until it's overturned or challenged, no? By encouraging someone to carry where the law says they can't, aren't you basically encouraging them to risk the loss of their LTC and any future right to own a firearm, not to mention their freedom? Regardless of how we may feel on the topic, the headline will still read "Gunman arrested on Federal property".
I realize I'm preaching to the choir, but I just have to add my 2 cents.
I work at a private college in MA, so carrying to work is a no go. Even if that law was over turned today, our HR department has a strict policy against carrying (I know, concealed is concealed, but I like and need my job, a lot). Anyway, to get back to preaching to the choir, I just really can't understand the logic. Usually when I hear about conflicting opinions I feel like I missed a calling in life to be a mediator. I can usually see both sides of an argument, and see that reality is usually somewhere in between. With events like Columbine and Virginia Tech spurring laws against firearms on campus, I just can't understand the logic. The conversation with an anti is simple. 1) Would laws against firearms keep any of these shootings from happening (ie, deter the shooters from bringing a gun onto campus)? Of course not. 2) would having fully licensed good guys CCW on campus increase the chances that these horrible tragedies would be cut short by taking out the BG as soon as possible? Of course.
What am I missing?
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I work at a private college in MA, so carrying to work is a no go. Even if that law was over turned today, our HR department has a strict policy against carrying (I know, concealed is concealed, but I like and need my job, a lot). Anyway, to get back to preaching to the choir, I just really can't understand the logic. Usually when I hear about conflicting opinions I feel like I missed a calling in life to be a mediator. I can usually see both sides of an argument, and see that reality is usually somewhere in between. With events like Columbine and Virginia Tech spurring laws against firearms on campus, I just can't understand the logic. The conversation with an anti is simple. 1) Would laws against firearms keep any of these shootings from happening (ie, deter the shooters from bringing a gun onto campus)? Of course not. 2) would having fully licensed good guys CCW on campus increase the chances that these horrible tragedies would be cut short by taking out the BG as soon as possible? Of course.
What am I missing?
(*** End of Choir Preaching ***)
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