Pick my next milsurp rifle

[kingson]

OK I got one for you Czech RPG live fire training rocket. It takes a 7.62x39 and will fire. I have 3 and my friend made up a way to fire it easily. Here are some picks of mine

Here is a link to one for sale on gunbroker

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=151312528

Not to expensive and diffrent

 

[USMA-82]

WOW! That looks like WAY too much fun to be legal in Massachusetts! Surely, it would be labeled an "infernal machine" or some other such nonsense.

Interesting, but not exactly what I was after.

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[kingson]

I had them when I was in MA. The are fun to shoot.

How about a broomhandle carbine? (mine is a repo but fun)

 

[USMA-82]

How about a broomhandle carbine? [/IMG]

Now THAT's neat! Where would I find one, and what would it run?

 

[Keystone]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_military_equipment#Weapons

I don't know if that will help you, but might get the gears turning

 

[JD09]

Based upon your "got it"s so far...2nd round of suggestions

Argentine 1909 Rifle or Cavalry Carbine in 7.65

I will guess you have been there on the MAS 36's but how about MAS 44 or MAS 49's (not the 49/56)

Canadian Ross 1905

Krag maybe (But I bet you have been there too.)

 

[USMA-82]

Yup - that's a big help. I have a few extra ones to research now.

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Argentine 1909 - yup (but not the carbine)

MAS 49 - yup (but not the 44)

Ross 1905 - yup (but it's sporterized, so I don't really count it)

Krag - yup (but not a carbine)

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Hey - some more great leads. Thanks!

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[JD09]

Really out there

Mondragon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondrag%C3%B3n_rifle Wouldnt that be nice to be able to get


or a Military issued Winchester M1895

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Model_1895

Dont know about the $ on those though

Or even a nice Mil marked Winchester 1897 Trench Gun (if you are open to a shotgun)

Mauser Kar 98a (had one I liked it a lot)

 

[USMA-82]

Now you're hitting some hot buttons.

I saw a Mondragon on Gunbroker once - I think the seller was looking for $15,000 or so. I actually saw one at the Springfield Armory during a private (second floor) tour there a few years ago. WAY out of the price range, but that would be quite a score.

1895 Winchester - I've actually bid on quite a few, but always end up choking after the price sailed north of $800 or so. Some day I'll find one.

The trench gun would be fun to look at, but I probably wouldn't shoot it much.

I'm pretty much mauser-heavy right now, so I'm looking beyond those.

Great suggestions - I think we have the same tastes.

 

[garandman]

Lahti 20mm?

Can civilians own an M79?

 

[SKS Ray]

How about one of these? http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl29-e.htm I don't think I've ever seen one before.

 

[USMA-82]

Would you believe there was a French Model 1917 on Gunbroker a while back? Outrageous price, of course.

 

[calsdad]

I'd love an MG-42 semi, but it's the same cost issue as the Johnson.

I have spent quite a bit of time looking at those MG-42 kits - and one of the big things that kept me from buying one was: I couldn't figure out if it was MA legal or not.

There is a flash hider ( not AWB legal) unless - the firearm in question was "pre-ban", which the parts in the kit would be, but the receiver you would have to buy to build the kit - wouldn't be.

I would love to have an MG42 , just love the look of those guns.

 

[Joe G]

I know you've got some Swiss rifles, but have you gotten one of all the flavors of Schmidt-Rubin and Vetterli? I nabbed an Italian Vetterli some time ago and would love to keep looking for more. Both the Vetterli and S-R are very cool bolt designs.

http://www.swissrifles.com/sr/
http://www.swissrifles.com/vetterli/

 

[kingson]

I have spent quite a bit of time looking at those MG-42 kits - and one of the big things that kept me from buying one was: I couldn't figure out if it was MA legal or not.

There is a flash hider ( not AWB legal) unless - the firearm in question was "pre-ban", which the parts in the kit would be, but the receiver you would have to buy to build the kit - wouldn't be.

I would love to have an MG42 , just love the look of those guns.

I had a MG-42 in MA. The thing on the end I would call it a booster. It won't work without it.

 

[calsdad]

I had a MG-42 in MA. The thing on the end I would call it a booster. It won't work without it.

That's what I thought - was the MG42 you had built from a kit? How did you acquire it? Semi-auto?

 

[kingson]

That's what I thought - was the MG42 you had built from a kit? How did you acquire it? Semi-auto?

I ordered ( it was a complete gun) it and had it shipped to my gun shop in CT and then brought it to a gun shop in MA and they transfered it to me. It is semi auto

 

[USMA-82]

I know you've got some Swiss rifles, but have you gotten one of all the flavors of Schmidt-Rubin and Vetterli? [/URL]

I do love my Swiss Ladies:

http://northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=31775&highlight=swiss+ladies

A swiss cadet and sniper would round out that portion of my collection quite nicely.

 

[theGringo]

Nothing Portuguese?

Look at THESE!

PORTUGUESE STEYR M1886 KROPATCHEK RIFLE
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=151793274
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=151611423

Rare Portuguese Mannlicher Model 1896 22 trainer
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=151906906

Luger, DWM,1906 Royal Portuguese Navy
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=151340499

 

[Joe G]

I do love my Swiss Ladies:

http://northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=31775&highlight=swiss+ladies

A swiss cadet and sniper would round out that portion of my collection quite nicely.

Very nice Swiss collection! Looks like it's just the Italian Vetterli's that need rounding out.

 

[USMA-82]

Look at THESE!

PORTUGUESE STEYR M1886 KROPATCHEK RIFLE
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=151793274
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=151611423

Rare Portuguese Mannlicher Model 1896 22 trainer
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=151906906

Luger, DWM,1906 Royal Portuguese Navy
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=151340499

Am I detecting a pattern here?

Actually, I do have a Krop, and was fortunate enough to find some ammo to shoot through it. Very solid, well-made firearm.

The trainer doesn't do anything for me, and the luger would be great except for one little detail - the price.

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[theGringo]

... and the luger would be great except for one little detail - the price.

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Well then, I guess the $650 holster and pouch for the luger is right out.

 

[Jose]

Which Mauser variant do you not have?

 

[USMA-82]

Which Mauser variant do you not have?

Very funny! Having read Robert Ball's "Mauser Military Rifles of the World" I can honestly say I don't have 99% of the variants.

If I were a true collector, and could focus on one particular type of rifle to collect, the mauser-type would certainly give me a life-long challenge. But I'm probably more of an accumulator, so I tend to look for representative samples of different designs.

Of course, all that theory goes out the window if I see something I like at a reasonable price - and I happen to have the cash!

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[50 BMG]

OK buddy, How about the rifle featured in Shotgun news. A Czech sniper rifle made on a Mosin Nagant platform. I have the article if you would like a copy. Very rare and VERY collectible. If I find one I will be sure to let you know....yeah sure...if I find one I am buying it.If there's two I let you buy the second one.....

 

[USMA-82]

OK buddy, How about the rifle featured in Shotgun news. A Czech sniper rifle made on a Mosin Nagant platform. I have the article of you would like a copy. Very rare and VERY collectible. If I find one I will be sure to let you know....yeah sure...if I find one I am buying it.If there's two I let you buy the second one.....

Thanks, Fred. You're a real pal.

Actually, I've already made my choice. You know how sometimes you have so many choices, you give up and do something completely different? Well, that was my decision. Instead of a new milsurp rifle, I got three milsurp pistols. One is still on the way, but I'll post pics as soon as I can.

I do have a nice list of rifles for future purchases, though!

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[theGringo]

You know how sometimes you have so many choices, you give up and do something completely different? Well, that was my decision. Instead of a new milsurp rifle, I got three milsurp pistols.

Is one of them the Portuguese Navy Luger?

 

[USMA-82]

Is one of them the Portuguese Navy Luger?

Nix on the Pommes Frites! The Port will have to wait for later.

But the ones I got do make for a nice little international mix - one french, one spanish and one romanian.

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[gerrycaruso]

Swedish mauser in 6.5x55 because it's the most accurate bolt action military rifle I've ever fired and very comfortable to shoot. Springfield model 1873 .45/70 infantry rifle just because. Mine was made in Springfield Ma in 1874 and it still shoots great.

 

[USMA-82]

Swedish mauser in 6.5x55 because it's the most accurate bolt action military rifle I've ever fired and very comfortable to shoot. Springfield model 1873 .45/70 infantry rifle just because. Mine was made in Springfield Ma in 1874 and it still shoots great.

Swedish Mauser - Been there, got that. And you're right - it shoots great!

Springfield Trapdoor - Been there, got that. Mine is a Model 1888 with rod-bayonet, though. Nothing like a .45/70 blackpowder load going off in the morning - it smells like... victory!

Thanks for playing!

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