Pelosi threatens 2A with Emergency in next Dem presidency

When I first joined this board in 2011 there was a lot of talk about “go time”. That talk seems to have diminished here over the past several years IMHO. Personally idk when “go time” is for me or anyone else; a personal decision at best. Overall I think it will be connected to the attitudes of the Fudds and how far they perceive their backs are pushed against the wall. Nevertheless, an emergency declaration on guns by a dem president would most definitely move the hands of the go time clock forward.
 
Koolmoose said:
When I first joined this board in 2011 there was a lot of talk about “go time”. That talk seems to have diminished here over the past several years IMHO. Personally idk when “go time” is for me or anyone else; a personal decision at best.
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That's because it is just talk and always has been. The basic fact is that unless everybody has their "go time" at the SAME time, all we have are a string of individual nut jobs snapping and proving the anti-gunners right. It's the left's wet dream to provoke us into some half-a$$ed, lame revolt that they can use to prove how crazy we are.

The libertarian in me dislikes this move from an abuse of power standpoint. I mean, who needs a Congress when the President can just declare an emergency and get what he wants? Trust me, it WILL be guns or healthcare next time. My liberal family members on Facecrack are already salivating over it.
 
bauer said:
Strange. Me too. I don’t give mine names though; makes it too personal when I take them out of the dark place I keep them in the basement and fondle them:D
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mostly agree, i only named 1 (henry). the rest are just tools, like saws, hammers, drills, wrenches, ratchets, guns etc.
 
Goliathan said:
The libertarian in me dislikes this move from an abuse of power standpoint. I mean, who needs a Congress when the President can just declare an emergency and get what he wants? Trust me, it WILL be guns or healthcare next time. My liberal family members on Facecrack are already salivating over it.
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This is another way that NES has changed. Most of the members here should be railing against Presidential abuse of power.

I think Congress is full of shit, but the men who wrote the Constitution didn't. And they're smarter than me. Presidents who ignore Congress are tyrants, and it shouldn't matter what party they represent nor what the specific issue is.
 
We are in a unique time where we are constantly trying to apply the principles of the founders, to a group of people completely removed from those principles. At some point it is our duty to defend the country, illegal immigration will kill the USA by a thousand cuts eventually. The Commies know this, and that is why they continue to push to keep it flowing.
 
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Bonesinium said:
She’s an idiot but she’s making a point that many people, including Republican are making. If Trump were to declare an emergency to build a wall because illegals are dangerous then what would stop a D President from declaring an emergency because “guns” are dangerous?
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To question 1 The 2nd amendment and facts. And If between 15,000,000 to 22,000,000 foreign nationals on our soil illegally killing untold numbers of American citizens every year and leeching off all of our systems is not a nation emergency I’d like to know what it is?
 
ASHDUMP said:
I still don't know why some think mass illegal migration isn't an emergency.

There are [according to most] 15,000,000 people here who have no identity. Do we want more of this? What is the cutoff before it becomes a problem or emergency? 100,000,000?
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You mean just because there are more illegal aliens here now than the TOTAL number of Americans that fought in World War II in ALL theaters combined that we may have a problem? Oh You alarmist you.
 
BwaHaHaHa ,Good Luck with that,Charlton Heston said it best”From My Cold DEAD HANDS”with a Bud Light of course.........Besides I lost all of my Firearms in a boating accident
 
I foresee AOC being speaker of the house before Pelosi has a chance to act on this..

I foresee a bizarre Botox accident in her future..
 
Super99Z said:
We are in a unique time where we are constantly trying to apply the principles of the founders, to a group of people completely removed from those principles. At some point it is our duty to defend the country, illegal immigration will kill the USA by a thousand cuts eventually. The Commies know this, and that is why they continue to push to keep it flowing.
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You're applying the principles of the founders by specifically advocating we abandon the principles of the founders. And not just one of the "little" principles, either: checks and balances/separation of powers is as basic and fundamental as it gets.

Twist your logic however you like. If you're in favor of this or any other president appropriating his own money against the will of Congress, you're against the constitution. That's as simple as it gets.
 
Picton said:
This.

Immigration is also, frankly, not an emergency. Any more than “the war on drugs” or healthcare or air pollution or drunk driving or a host of other crap we haven’t bothered to fix.

If mismanagement is emergent, then we’ve been in an emergency for decades now.

But sure. Bring it on. Might as well just deal with it head-on. “I prefer a straight fight to all this sneakin’ around.”
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Wrong it is an emergency, more so than ISIS or China. It touches your everyday life. From healthcare, education, taxes, social security, cars, voting construction, jobs. I argue it's a bigger threat than ISIS, The Iranians Russia or China.
 
Lip said:
Wrong it is an emergency, more so than ISIS or China. It touches your everyday life. From healthcare, education, taxes, social security, cars, voting construction, jobs. I argue it's a bigger threat than ISIS, The Iranians Russia or China.
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Okay. Even if you're right...

Choice 1: Follow the constitution, apply the Founders' principles, and do the hard work of governing the country.

Choice 2: Wad up the constitution and use it as toilet paper because it's the path of least resistance.

Presidents swear an oath to do one thing above all else: support and defend the constitution. It's unbelievable to me that so many of you are so eager to see your golden boy scrap the whole document, and you're cheering him on.
 
Picton said:
Okay. Even if you're right...

Choice 1: Follow the constitution, apply the Founders' principles, and do the hard work of governing the country.

Choice 2: Wad up the constitution and use it as toilet paper because it's the path of least resistance.

Presidents swear an oath to do one thing above all else: support and defend the constitution. It's unbelievable to me that so many of you are so eager to see your golden boy scrap the whole document, and you're cheering him on.
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Funny how? Your dark lord ran roughshod on it, the fake libertarians stated they would. The socialist rape fantasizer Bernie would do it. Killery would and has worked against it. So sparky who's your fantasy, oops choice?
 
Lip said:
Funny how? Your dark lord ran roughshod on it, the fake libertarians stated they would. The socialist rape fantasizer Bernie would do it. Killery would and has worked against it. So sparky who's your fantasy, oops choice?
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I'm not the one using words like "funny." I don't think this is any kind of joke. You're a veteran; you swore to defend the constitution, same as I did. Why is it hunky-dory for President Trump to shit on Article 1, but it's anathema for President Warren or President O'Rourke or President "fill in here" to shit on 2A? They're parts of the same document, and it's not a smorgasbord: you don't get to pick and choose which parts of CONUS you want to apply and conveniently forget the rest of them.

My choice is a president who follows the constitution. Feel free to get all snarky about that.
 
Picton said:
This is another way that NES has changed. Most of the members here should be railing against Presidential abuse of power.

I think Congress is full of shit, but the men who wrote the Constitution didn't. And they're smarter than me. Presidents who ignore Congress are tyrants, and it shouldn't matter what party they represent nor what the specific issue is.
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Your admirable objectivity will not help you when the Bolsheviks pull into your driveway.
 
Bonesinium said:
She’s an idiot but she’s making a point that many people, including Republican are making. If Trump were to declare an emergency to build a wall because illegals are dangerous then what would stop a D President from declaring an emergency because “guns” are dangerous?
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The constitution is the answer. A challenge to a sweeping ban on guns would easily be struck down in court.

There is no precedent for building a wall.

If he doesn’t veto the bill he’s going about this the wrong way.
 

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