Mark, You know what? You're right I threw out an opinion that it doesnt even make the top 10 with a number of references to back it up that pointed out well known issues with the gun and that folks should go and try it side by side with other stuff before you buy it. You countered with the same old "I'm a professional" response you frequently feel a need to preach in posts and the unsolicited email you send lots of folks stating that its basically the best thing since sliced bread because .mil chose it and you're a proffessional... I'm not pushing people to do anything except get out there and try a bunch of guns side by side so THEY can judge whats best for them .mil chose the gun for its own reasons including political ones.....but you're a professional so you know these things You ignore the fact that how the 100 million gun owners in the US use and carry firearms might just be fundamentally different from how US Mil uses it. I know a LOT of people who have bought the beretta, shot it for a while and either sold it or it now sits in the safe because there are piles of other guns with better triggers, that are easier to conceal/draw from concealment and are just easier to shoot. I didnt offer specific examples because there are lots of good options out there for folks of all shapes and sizes This has nothing to do with me and everything to do with encouraging folks to go out and get some rounds under their belt with a couple of guns side by side not to mention in a holster if they are going to carry it because there isnt one gun out there that fits everyone and just because .mil or .gov chose it doesnt mean its a good personal choice for others.