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Open Carry in MA?
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"confiscated" for your benefit.
Yup this again. Every few weeks someone comes on with the "unique" idea that hey.......We are getting ****ed guys you can open carry in mass........The cops are wrong man....It's actually legal!
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I am a Mass resident with an unrestricted LTC. Even though it is seemingly not illegal to open carry there are two main reasons I do not.
1. I am a wimp. I do not want to take the chance or go through the hassle and potential expense of possibly having my LTC suspended or revoked. Along those lines I believe every LEO out there will stop me and ask for my LTC and perhaps in some instances have their weapons drawn and pointed at me.
2. I lose the element of surprise.
1. I am a wimp. I do not want to take the chance or go through the hassle and potential expense of possibly having my LTC suspended or revoked. Along those lines I believe every LEO out there will stop me and ask for my LTC and perhaps in some instances have their weapons drawn and pointed at me.
2. I lose the element of surprise.
Sparky123
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I hear lots of wannabe lawyers quoting Massachusetts law. But no one will the ba*** to back up what they say. If you so convinced that some people are wrong, they strap on a pistol and walk around with it. The truth is backing up what you believe or say is a lot harder than telling someone that they are wrong. Please don't forget to send us that video of you walking around Boston.
A lot of it is attitude and presentation, if you look like you belong, you aren't being all skittish about having a firearm on your hip, and you don't look like the average joe slob, you'd be surprised how many people won't question it.
Beretta92FS
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Lank
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This so accurately describes leftivist moonbats here in the DPRMA.
Our numbers ARE growing- maybe someday we will become a voting constituency the dipshits on bacon hill finally give a hoot about
FrankNA
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I would not open carry even if it did not cause any issues with the sheeple or police in MA. Why would you want to advertise that you're carrying a firearm and lose the advantage of concealment?
Yes. I made that choice and for the reasons I listed. There are more cops who would harass you over it than those that would not. I have zero interest in potentially attracting that type of an encounter with law enforcement. I do not unnecessarily draw attention to myself and they do not notice me. It's kind of a thing we have.....lol
I encounter cops a lot getting coffee, going to the bank or the grocery store or whatever in my daily travels as much as anyone else. I'm carrying concealed. Never had an issue. So it works for me.
But the element of surprise is a big factor too.....I believe it makes you a target to have your gun stolen...
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/02/daniel-zimmerman/389470/
Mike,
It was Joe Landers, in Dedham. He lived there, was carrying pizzas from the store across from the PD (both are in Dedham Square) when his jacket blew open and officer queried him about the gun. Officer wrote a report of the encounter (no arrest, all legal) and the Dedham chief (Joe lived in the same town) pulled his LTC. It took many years (Atty Langer assisted and sued the town, court ruled for the town) and a new chief before Joe got his LTC back (restricted). Joe came on here and posted about the experience and then disappeared.
Here are two links to the story from our archives (Google is your friend):
https://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-299.html
https://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-10681.html
So open carry at your peril if you wish. Times were that nobody would blink, but in today's society inside Rte. 128, I'd bet on revocation of LTC for this is the norm.
Whether I choose to OPEN carry or CONCEAL is MY choice, and again I quote you "And I don't care what the law says, open carry and you can kiss your LTC good-bye." is fear mongering, while SOME Chiefs MAY pull someones LTC, it is NOT UNIFORM (not all mass. chiefs are do**hes) = NOT ILLEGAL TO OPEN CARRY AND MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO IT. even in that tough city named Boston (FACTS and is not security or LE ).
Wait... what ? Did I just read above someone typed that they open carried and nothing happened ? ( scrolling up) he or she must be a liar then... right ?
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it's nothing to get upset about. It has been established that it is not illegal to open carry in Mass. So if you choose to open carry then have at it. But as someone pointed out earlier a judge ruled that if you do open carry and a cop asks to see your LTC you must provide it. Then there was a cite where a Dedham guy got jammed up and was without a license for I think a few years while it went through the courts.
So is it legal to open carry? Yes. Can you get jammed up if you open carry? Yes. Will you get jammed up if you open carry? it's anyone's guess.
But all anyone needs to do to find out how it will go down is open carry.
Number 1 = That is MGL. so not disputed
Number 2 = That is fact, not disputed
Number 3 = All true
But Sparky claims = "open carry and you can kiss your LTC goodbye" , as if that's 100% true across over 340 chiefs. ( mass has 351 cities and towns, I know )
PaulR
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Circa 1986 when I was a teen I so vividly remember walking through all the condo's and streets where I lived with my BB gun strapped to my back, going to shoot at (never hit one) squirrels off in the woods.
That's all I got for this thread.
That's all I got for this thread.
Pot is legal now but I'm not going to smoke a joint in the PD lobby.
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If you open carry, you invite anyone you have a minor conflict with to cause you a world of grief. All they have to do is say "he threatened me with the gun" and you're talking loss of LTC, legal fees, a coerced plea bargain and probably PP status. Even if you don't draw, someone can feel threatened and make such a claim.
It is also not illegal to exercise you right ot remain silent when questioned as a suspect in a criminal case, however, that did not prevent the state appellate court from upholding doing so as a valid reason to revoke an LTC.
StevieP
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This is the primary reason I carry concealed. That, and, if I was a bad guy entering a place or situation intent on creating mayhem, if I saw someone with a gun I'd shoot him first. Keeping it concealed is a tactical advantage which might save my life.
amm5061
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The US Constitution, void where prohibited by law.
StevieP
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My take on it is that you're not responsible for someone else's reaction to something which you are legally permitted to do.
Most people, if they saw a bulge on someone's hip, would assume it's a technical or medical device, before "Gun!" This is the PRM, after all.
I print and don't care. Never been bothered.
I agree with Zeo, tons of fear mongering. However, I have not open carried - don't want to advertise I am armed.
Weird that i separate the 2. I guess I am assuming the people who are afraid of open carry don't recognize what is under there when i print.
I agree with Zeo, tons of fear mongering. However, I have not open carried - don't want to advertise I am armed.
Weird that i separate the 2. I guess I am assuming the people who are afraid of open carry don't recognize what is under there when i print.
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