blindndead
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I had to turn it off half-way through after about the third time that he pointed his gun near his foot.
I never said you shouldn't know how to use your sights. HOWEVER, in the real deal you won't see your sights. Obviously your training is limited to text book scenarios that are not realistic. If you rely on the gun to get the job done, you are screwed to begin with. Using your front sight the way most people teach is only good for less than 10% of real world situations. Using your front sight in 90% of situations can get you killed or seriously injured.
There is no proof that using your front sight WILL increase your hit ratio
Yea, I had that problem with the video as well. I've never used my gun in a confrontation (and hope I never do). Maybe I won't see my sights; maybe I will. But I have a hard time with the word "never". Ayoob interviewed people who said that they saw their sights in sharp focus, seeing the individual serrations on the front sight. So I can't abide the word "never."Which is it? Never, or ~10%? .
Contact shooting as a concept is awesome. If you're getting attacked by a paraplegic from three feet away. Or you're working PSD and have the legal authority to engage before the threat's weapon is up.
Edit: I'll save my un-PC humor for later.
I've only been in one gunpoint confrontation, and it was job related. Take it for what it's worth, it's just my experience. I grabbed a guy who had stolen a car and hurt a bunch of people. I came around the corner and ran straight into him running up the road. I jumped out and lined up on him while yelling all the normal stuff. Initially, I used my sights, as we were at about 12 yards. This is where things may or may not differ from a self-defense encounter...
I couldn't use my sights anymore due to the fact that I couldn't focus on his hands (which he kept behind his back), and I was trying to get a bigger picture of people in the area due to it being 4:00 in the afternoon. Had he not shown his hands, or come out with a gun or knife, would I have gone back to sights? I don't know.
I do teach my guys a mix of point shooting and sighted fire. The point shooting is pretty much relative to transitioning to a firearm during a hand to hand combat situation. Even when in sighted fire ranges, I try to get them to take in the whole situation periodically, and not get so wrapped up in the sights.
Just my experience, not HSLD or anything.
Interested that you would cite the NYPD, the Dept with the worst record of all on officer involved shootings.
Tell us some more about the vaunted NYPD after the travesty that just occurred,,,,
SiGtac
You said that it is hard to imagine "trained professionals" missing at zero to six feet
This is a good observation which has driven police departments nuts for many years
First, my comments are not anti police in anyway
The training that officers get at the police academy is very short
Most police do little, if any, real training.
Very few officers get any training at zero to six feet
What police departments do is to qualify their officers to a specified test
Most police officers do not shoot on their own to be able to shoot better
I had a conversation with a police department instructor, I asked him if he had any real good shooters
His response was that his department did not have any "gun nuts"
A couple of years ago I was helping an officer get read for his qualification
While he was making generally good shots, I noticed that his point of aim was always high and to the right. He told me that a previous police instructor told him to do it to pass his qualifications
He had a specific aim point worked out for each of the distances in the qual
The real world problem with this was that if he did know the exact distance, he didn't know where to aim
The question on backing up is, can you back up faster than the BG can run forward?
A "travesty"? Watch the video.* See if you still feel the same way after having watched the video.Interested that you would cite the NYPD, the Dept with the worst record of all on officer involved shootings.
Tell us some more about the vaunted NYPD after the travesty that just occurred,,,,