# NH 2020 Gun Bill Legislation List. See Post #1

#### jpk

HB1115 altering definition of compact/where guns may be discharged in a town has been scheduled for hearing on tues 02/18/2020 11:00 am LOB 301

This is a very dangerous bill for multiple reasons

#### design

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KBCraig,
I guess they don't care enough about protecting their rights. I always hear, 'from my cold dead hands' but the reality is a day off from work will do far more good than declarative statements. If work is for most like it is for me, there is plenty of vacation time waiting to be used up, just work is so busy that taking time off is hard.

#### KBCraig

NES Member
KBCraig,
I guess they don't care enough about protecting their rights. I always hear, 'from my cold dead hands' but the reality is a day off from work will do far more good than declarative statements. If work is for most like it is for me, there is plenty of vacation time waiting to be used up, just work is so busy that taking time off is hard.
I know it is. I'm not blaming anyone for having to earn a living.

I do too. I normally work four days a week at my day job, with Tue/Wed/Thur scheduled off. My committee meets on Tuesdays and session days are Thursday, so I usually have Wednesday as a day off.

Because the Democrats wimped out because of weather 2/6, we're now behind schedule, and next week is a deadline week for certain bills. I'll have committee Tuesday, full house session days Wednesday *and* Thursday, and my county delegation meeting on Friday.

I have to squeeze my day job hours in there somewhere.

#### design

NES Member
KBCraig, you are clearly on the front lines protecting our rights, we need more people to join you

jpk

#### KBCraig

NES Member
KBCraig, you are clearly on the front lines protecting our rights, we need more people to join you

#### jpk

Hi, I’m new here and also a new resident to NH. I moved away from Massachusetts to get away from this nonsense. If there is anyway I can help fight the good fight (besides voting of course. It’ll be nice having my vote really count for the first time in my life) please send me a PM with details. Thanks for all who are keeping up the constant battle.

1st step

Find your reps/sen and add phone and email info to email client and smart phone......mail, email and call regularly.....if its a dem then be a squeaky wheel.....if its a rep that waffles then treat like a dem (be polite).....if its a solid republican/libertarian then support/thank them regularly.........rinse and repeat for senators

2nd step

Add gov's phone number to email client/smart phone...603-271-2121

I've never seen his email published.....web form is here under Share an Opinion

Rinse and repeat previous recommendations for the executive council...... Official website of the New Hampshire Executive Council

3rd step.....sign up for NHFC and/or any of the other gun groups in NH....pay attention to all of them.....NHFC is the most active involved by far but I would note we have a very good/involved NRA ILA rep currently....this has not always been the case...google "heave ho hohenwarter" for history

4th step.....show up....showing up for hearings is really hard for all of us but it makes all the difference.....further up this thread in one of the first few post is info on showing up for hearings, parking in concord etc.....

Welcome to NH......if you dont want it to turn into mass then we all need to be involved

jpk

#### jpk

Current status based on OP is that a bunch of bad bills have passed and a bunch more WILL pass and go to Gov Sununu's desk

Food for thought

If we take Gov Sununu based on his actions and own words, given his overt violation of right to assemble, right to redress, right to worship, 4th amendment rights, 5th amendment rights and a pile of other overt violations aliong with abandonment of the NH GOP party platforn........why does anyone actually believe he's going to do the right thing and veto all/any of the anti RKBA bills that land on his desk?

He's already totally abandoned the base/core of the party and is fawning over progressive support for the above constitutional violations......

It looks to me that we're way past slippery slope and in full free fall wrt Sununu and abiding by the constitution

gov sununu said:
I believe that public health trumps everything

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#### 42!

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Current status based on OP is that a bunch of bad bills have passed and a bunch more WILL pass and go to Gov Sununu's desk

Food for thought

If we take Gov Sununu based on his actions and own words, given his overt violation of right to assemble, right to redress, right to worship, 4th amendment rights, 5th amendment rights and a pile of other overt violations aliong with abandonment of the NH GOP party platforn........why does anyone actually believe he's going to do the right thing and veto all/any of the anti RKBA bills that land on his desk?

Because he did it last year! You got a dam short memory, and loyalty runs both ways. His vetos last year showed where he stands, we need to remind him of that, but we also need to acknowledge it.

This pandemic is a tough situation. The gov has a duty to protect its citizens but needs to balance this against their personal freedoms, frankly, there is no complete win in what they do. And there are some things I think they F'd up and others that make sense. Keep in mind, that if everyone cared about how they and their actions could affect other people, there would be no problem. But that's not how a lot, maybe most, think.

#### jpk

Because he did it last year! You got a dam short memory, and loyalty runs both ways. His vetos last year showed where he stands, we need to remind him of that, but we also need to acknowledge it.

This pandemic is a tough situation. The gov has a duty to protect its citizens but needs to balance this against their personal freedoms, frankly, there is no complete win in what they do. And there are some things I think they F'd up and others that make sense. Keep in mind, that if everyone cared about how they and their actions could affect other people, there would be no problem. But that's not how a lot, maybe most, think.

I've thanked and acknowledged Sununu's eventual veto's of a lot of bad bills

But at the same time he signed into law a bunch of bills that are equally destructive of liberty/freedom

No one is perfect, I have no illusions of holding out for perfection......

But Sununu just said the following in combination with his gross violations of civil rights

I dont thing anyone can/will argue that his actions are lawful let alone constitutional.......so how do we nudge the governor back onto the rails?

#### 42!

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I've thanked and acknowledged Sununu's eventual veto's of a lot of bad bills

But at the same time he signed into law a bunch of bills that are equally destructive of liberty/freedom

No one is perfect, I have no illusions of holding out for perfection......

But Sununu just said the following in combination with his gross violations of civil rights

I dont thing anyone can/will argue that his actions are lawful let alone constitutional.......so how do we nudge the governor back onto the rails?
Are you going to post this on the corona thread as well? If all you want to do is throw shat then go for it, but it it really mattered to you you'd stick to a discussion in a thead.

#### jpk

Are you going to post this on the corona thread as well? If all you want to do is throw shat then go for it, but it it really mattered to you you'd stick to a discussion in a thead.

I dont thing anyone can/will argue that his actions are lawful let alone constitutional.......so how do we nudge the governor back onto the rails?

If he's willing to violate all other rights why does anyone believe he wont do it with RKBA?

#### jpk

All, there are a significant number of bills that have passed the house or senate and will be passed to the other house of the legislature for hearings in coming weeks

Right now there's no indication that normal processes will return for forseeable future and we'll need to "attend" and "testify" electronically/over zoom

The link below is an example of a Senate hearing scheduled for Fri 5/29

Its important that we continue to oppose bad gun bills and do everything possible to prevent passage in the legislature

This may actually work in our favor and make it easier for larger numbers of people to "attend" and "testify" electronically

#### Coyote33

All, there are a significant number of bills that have passed the house or senate and will be passed to the other house of the legislature for hearings in coming weeks

Right now there's no indication that normal processes will return for forseeable future and we'll need to "attend" and "testify" electronically/over zoom

The link below is an example of a Senate hearing scheduled for Fri 5/29

Its important that we continue to oppose bad gun bills and do everything possible to prevent passage in the legislature

This may actually work in our favor and make it easier for larger numbers of people to "attend" and "testify" electronically

Only if you can communicate to them, and assist them getting online. Some advance workshops on this would be a wise idea for the winning team.

#### jpk

Only if you can communicate to them, and assist them getting online. Some advance workshops on this would be a wise idea for the winning team.

Use tomorrows unrelated hearing as a test run, connect via Zoom then choose not to testify after connected

Instructions were in the previous pdf

I suspect a lot of people are familar with use of Zoom.....its easy to use but like all things....the first time doing something new/different is sometimes challenging

Second time is much easier usually

#### Coyote33

Use tomorrows unrelated hearing as a test run, connect via Zoom then choose not to testify after connected

Instructions were in the previous pdf

I suspect a lot of people are familiar with use of Zoom.....its easy to use but like all things....the first time doing something new/different is sometimes challenging

Second time is much easier usually

So, how are you getting this information out to the hundreds, or thousands, of New Hampshire voters you are looking for? Do you have any sort of mail chain, maybe through the sportman's clubs? Through some other group or affiliation? I don't even live in NH, so I'm of no help to you.

#### jpk

For those actually keeping score and playing along/participating this is interesting

Republicans in the house have been criticized by dems and the UL for not folding......

Whats at play is the road map for how the house deals with remaining legislation for this session

Without a change to house rules, a 2/3 majority is required to pass anything in the House....unless they are concurring with a senate bill....in which case as I understand it just requires a simple majority

Without a rule change for the deadline, any House bill would require a two-thirds majority for passage. The House would be able to vote to concur with Senate changes to House bills, which would send them to the governor, because a simple majority would be needed for approval.

Dem Speaker Shurtleff has been in typical form.....ignoring process, making claims that are patently false and generally doing whatever the fook he wants until called to the mat/floor for it

Unfortunately, the house passed most of the gun control already and its pending hearings in the Senate save one or two bills

HB 687 as I recall has passed both houses of leg and is pending enrollment before being sent to Sununu at some politically opportune time.....for those that done recall...this is the red flag bill that got rammed thru despite constitutional issues.......and passed by 25 votes in House.......the margin that we failed to run candidates in house races by coincidentally......which illustrates WHY we need to recruite a candidate to run in every single house race for 2020.

Given that pretty much all of the bills have universal opposition so far by GOP I would say under normal circumstances that the governor would be expected to veto them to avoid the terrible optics of going against his entire caucus.......but given sununu's lack of fidelity with the constitution since March of 2020 I think anything is possible/on the table for Sununu at this point

#### 42!

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Sununu vetoed the last batch of anti 2a bills because he had, and wanted, the support of the people. Forgetting this, and encouraging others to pull that support is not the act of an honorable man.

Working to undermine the one person who stands between our 2a freedoms and the loss of those freedoms is no less than actively working to remove those freedoms yourself. If JPK gets his way we would all turn against Sununu, he has made that plainly clear. This would result in our loss of our 2a freedoms.

Sununu is not perfect, no man is. But he is the best assurance we have and I'm not going to stab him in the back.

Everyone will make their own decision. I will continue to call/email Sununu's office and ask him to veto these bills as he has past ones. And I will support him come next election when he does.

#### jpk

Covid and the shut down of the legislature may stand a chance at killing some of the gun bills still in the legislature

The GOP in the house has essentially shut down any extension in the house.....so anything still in the house appears to be dead..

Stuff passed over to the Senate is at risk\in question....

HB687 passed the house and is sitting in the senate pending a hearing (Red Flag Bill)

Lots of bills passed over to the Senate as per the OP in this thread.......Senate rules/calendar requires the senate to take action before 6/30........

HB1660 passed both houses and is pending being sent to Gov to sign.....entire GOP caucus voted AGAINST this bill.....lets see what Sununu does with it...

#### KBCraig

NES Member
On Tuesday, the Senate tabled HB 1285, which would have prohibited firearms on school grounds.

They also tabled HB 1608, which would ban standard capacity magazines.