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Mountain lion killed on I95 in CT

BUT, BUT ,BUT the DEP in Connecticut, and Mass for that matter, say that the mountian lion is extinct in New England.[smile]

Bob

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The Department of Environmental Protection said in a statement that the 140-pound animal died after being hit by an SUV at about 1 a.m. Saturday.

Mountain Lions can travel about 25 miles a day. There had been several recent sightings of a large cat believed to be a mountain lion in Greenwich, Connecticut, about 30 miles away from Milford.

Mountain lions are not native to Connecticut and the eastern mountain lion has been declared extinct by the U.S. wildlife officials

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2011/06/11/mountain-lion-killed-in-conn-car-crash-65-miles-from-mass-border/


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"It's very unusual for mountain lions to be near the roadway and on the highway, so it's unique as far as we're concerned," said State Police spokesman Lt. J. Paul Vance.

State Department of Environmental Protection officials were called to the scene, and transferred the 140-pound animal to a DEP facility for further examination.

DEP spokesman Dennis Schain said it is likely the dead mountain lion is the same one seen three times in Greenwich recently.

The most recent sighting was reported last Sunday evening by several Brunswick School faculty, who said they saw a mountain lion at the school's King Street campus.

"It's pretty likely, given that there's no native population of mountain lion in Connecticut," Schain said.

The DEP has been working with the Greenwich Police Department to investigate the sightings of a large cat around King Street in Greenwich. DEP officials confirmed Wednesday the animal was a mountain lion based on a hazy photograph, large paw prints and droppings.

The eastern mountain lion was declared extinct in March by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and DEP officials believe the animal may have been released or escaped from a local handler.



Read more: http://www.greenwichtime.com/news/a...d-by-car-in-Milford-1419941.php#ixzz1P6ZauacU
 
"It's very unusual for mountain lions to be near the roadway and on the highway, so it's unique as far as we're concerned," said State Police spokesman Lt. J. Paul Vance.
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How would he know? They get a lot of mountain lions in CT that theyre not telling us about [rolleyes]
 
My friend had one killing his sheep. It was winter and plain as day you could see the giant paws in the tracks and the tail drag but .gov kept saying “can’t be, there aren’t any in mass”.
 
Puma are definitely coming back to New England. I'm not completely convinced that one in CT was a wild cat, but they're being seen more and more, and it's unlikely they're all from private collections.

Yeah, the eastern mountain lion may be extinct, but that's not stopping western animals from migrating east. There's a pretty healthy population living in the Black Hills of SD, and a male that was tranq'ed and tagged there was found months later at the freakin' Oklahoma/Texas border. That's one heck of a hike. But it's what they do. Seems like they may be taking a north route around the Great Lakes and heading to upstate NY and VT, even Maine. And as you probably know, there's plenty of food for them out here. Maybe they'll make it to PA and find the white-tailed deer buffet down there...

A team of wildlife biologists and trackers I know have been mapping the anecdotal/unconfirmed sightings, sightings by "professionals" (biologists, wildlife officers, etc), and confirmed sightings and actual tracks. I've seen the map - we're talking about dozens of individuals from Maine to Delaware. Again, some could be from private collections, but it's doubtful that all of them are.
 
Mountain lions are not native to Connecticut and the eastern mountain lion has been declared extinct by the U.S. wildlife officials.
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Apparently the mountain lions didn't get the memo. Or is it possible that the wildlife officials are lion about them being extinct?
 
My uncle has seen them and heard stories from other hunters about them in Maine, someone should tell the Mtn Lions their not supposed to be there.

Also no wolves in New England, but one was shot in Western Mass not too long ago
 
well it couldn't have come from NH
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/livi...while-state-denies-mountain-lions-are-in.html
That being said none of the N.E. states want to admit because then they would have to come up with the $ to administer a program to protect them. none of the states want to do that. They will claim that the animals are one offs and not a breeding population so they can avoid the hassle that will go along with declaring them as being in the state
 
Boghog1 said:
well it couldn't have come from NH
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/livi...while-state-denies-mountain-lions-are-in.html
That being said none of the N.E. states want to admit because then they would have to come up with the $ to administer a program to protect them. none of the states want to do that. They will claim that the animals are one offs and not a breeding population so they can avoid the hassle that will go along with declaring them as being in the state
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Ironically at the same time environmentalists will add that to their extinct species list to claim more federal funding to protect others. Lose, lose when .gov is involved.
 
Boghog1 said:
well it couldn't have come from NH
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/livi...while-state-denies-mountain-lions-are-in.html
That being said none of the N.E. states want to admit because then they would have to come up with the $ to administer a program to protect them. none of the states want to do that. They will claim that the animals are one offs and not a breeding population so they can avoid the hassle that will go along with declaring them as being in the state
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Same tactic is being taken in Maine in regards to wolves. Don't admit that they are there and you will have a lot less hassles.
 
90% of the US is undeveloped and the EPA/DEP would have a tough time of counting the number of Fords in your local Walmart parking lot. Therefore I believe and respect our "new" cat friends. Maybe they can kill all the yotes.
 
Holy Crap! the rumors are true!!! There was an article in the springfield republican sporting section about a local sighting the other day too.

-A lot of good comments on the cnn article, especially the one about attacked livestock in Brimfield Ma...

But I thought they aren't here and it's IMPOSSIBLE[shocked]
[laugh]
 
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The test results are going to come back as an escaped captive cougar.

Wild eastern mountain lions are extinct. Escaped or released captive cougars are are a different story.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=giving-up-on-the-ghost-cat-eastern-2011-03-09


March 9 2011
in the 110 confirmed instances of a cougar being seen in the eastern U.S. or Canada, all were traced to escaped animals that were brought to the northeast from other parts of the country, or even South America. "Some authors believe that as many as 1,000 cougars are in captivity in the U.S. and Canada," McCollough says. Although FWS could not verify that number, finding real counts of captive cougars is hard, because many are held illegally without permits, he says.
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Every single case has been confirmed via DNA as an imported cat, not a native eastern mountain lion. What do you think the odds are that this one will be different?
 
arlow said:
The test results are going to come back as an escaped captive cougar.

Wild eastern mountain lions are extinct. Escaped or released captive cougars are are a different story.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=giving-up-on-the-ghost-cat-eastern-2011-03-09


March 9 2011


Every single case has been confirmed via DNA as an imported cat, not a native eastern mountain lion. What do you think the odds are that this one will be different?
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yes absolutely no reason for the government to lie to us

ETA just because a species isn't naturally from here doesn't mean can't survive and breed, it may not be Puma concolor couguar of old but a breeding population of puma is still puma if it came from california, or south america, ever see invasive species not in an area get introduced?
 
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arlow said:
The test results are going to come back as an escaped captive cougar.

Wild eastern mountain lions are extinct. Escaped or released captive cougars are are a different story.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=giving-up-on-the-ghost-cat-eastern-2011-03-09


March 9 2011


Every single case has been confirmed via DNA as an imported cat, not a native eastern mountain lion. What do you think the odds are that this one will be different?
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Let me go find some tinfoil to fashion a hat out of them ill answer your question. [wink]
 
arlow said:
The test results are going to come back as an escaped captive cougar.

Wild eastern mountain lions are extinct. Escaped or released captive cougars are are a different story.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=giving-up-on-the-ghost-cat-eastern-2011-03-09


March 9 2011


Every single case has been confirmed via DNA as an imported cat, not a native eastern mountain lion. What do you think the odds are that this one will be different?
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Spanish Cougars? Now your talking!!!
 
HorizontalHunter said:
BUT, BUT ,BUT the DEP in Connecticut, and Mass for that matter, say that the mountian lion is extinct in New England.[smile]

Bob

mountain_lion_accident.jpg


The Department of Environmental Protection said in a statement that the 140-pound animal died after being hit by an SUV at about 1 a.m. Saturday.

Mountain Lions can travel about 25 miles a day. There had been several recent sightings of a large cat believed to be a mountain lion in Greenwich, Connecticut, about 30 miles away from Milford.

Mountain lions are not native to Connecticut and the eastern mountain lion has been declared extinct by the U.S. wildlife officials

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2011/06/11/mountain-lion-killed-in-conn-car-crash-65-miles-from-mass-border/


mediaManager


"It's very unusual for mountain lions to be near the roadway and on the highway, so it's unique as far as we're concerned," said State Police spokesman Lt. J. Paul Vance.

State Department of Environmental Protection officials were called to the scene, and transferred the 140-pound animal to a DEP facility for further examination.

DEP spokesman Dennis Schain said it is likely the dead mountain lion is the same one seen three times in Greenwich recently.

The most recent sighting was reported last Sunday evening by several Brunswick School faculty, who said they saw a mountain lion at the school's King Street campus.

"It's pretty likely, given that there's no native population of mountain lion in Connecticut," Schain said.

The DEP has been working with the Greenwich Police Department to investigate the sightings of a large cat around King Street in Greenwich. DEP officials confirmed Wednesday the animal was a mountain lion based on a hazy photograph, large paw prints and droppings.

The eastern mountain lion was declared extinct in March by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and DEP officials believe the animal may have been released or escaped from a local handler.



Read more: http://www.greenwichtime.com/news/a...d-by-car-in-Milford-1419941.php#ixzz1P6ZauacU
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That's a tabby cat.
 
arlow said:
The test results are going to come back as an escaped captive cougar.

Wild eastern mountain lions are extinct. Escaped or released captive cougars are are a different story.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=giving-up-on-the-ghost-cat-eastern-2011-03-09
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There's no consensus that the Eastern Cougar is even a valid subspecies. Opinions are divided, but many, perhaps most, wildlife biologists not playing the extinction racket, will tell you that all North American cougars are the same species.
 

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