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Feds don't have a problem putting lowly state level thugs in their placeHow does "Q.I." go away again? And who will prosecute them again?
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Feds don't have a problem putting lowly state level thugs in their placeHow does "Q.I." go away again? And who will prosecute them again?
Gun bill negotiators leave talks open, for now
In a twist not seen in years on Beacon Hill, a group of lawmakers tasked with negotiating major legislation opted — at least for another week — to keep their work open to the public.www.wwlp.com
Six-member committee to decide legislature's gun control proposal
Rep. Michael Day wants to get something passed soon.spectrumnews1.com
The news on the radio yesterday said they will reconvene or something like that in a week, and if they can't agree, this might all be out the window.
“I think we need to be very careful that we don't infringe too heavily on the rights of those who are protected by the Second Amendment. And that's what I hope to bring to the table, is some voice for restraint. And some voice for protecting constitution,” said McKenna.
Executive order can't change the actual law and would be struck down quickly.If they don’t agree what will stop the governor from issuing an executive order instead. With press and everything.
It’s hard to stay on track in regards to - “divide and conquer”Agree but until SCOTUS clarifies its dicta and strikes clearly strikes down any and all non-historical restrictions, we live with the narrow rulings we currently have as dogs begging for scraps.
That's the problem - divide and conquIt’s hard to stay on track in regards to - “divide and conquer”
It’s always been effective strategy, but ones soy society begins to feel empowered - things don’t get to be boring let just say…
I hear you on that but she did it once via executive fiat. She won’t push the AGs office to prosecute anyone just one of the same bs since 2016 just fear of what if isn’t that what happened? These threads are a proof of what she has accomplished with her press release 8 years ago.Executive order can't change the actual law and would be struck down quickly.
The speaker owns the state and no lowly governor would dare cross him openly.
What she did was scare a bunch of people from the bully pulpit.I hear you on that but she did it once via executive fiat. She won’t push the AGs office to prosecute anyone just one of the same bs since 2016 just fear of what if isn’t that what happened? These threads are a proof of what she has accomplished with her press release 8 years ago.
I don’t think this process was any different for many decades, and it it’s still the same squirrel wheel in action.That's the problem - divide and conqu
We are divided because we have people openly interested in exactly how the bill will make getting their hobby toys harder - not that thousands of people become paper felons, just how does it effect me.
We are divided by our own self interest.
Secondly, they throw out an omnibus bill with tons of shit in one session but we have to pick it apart in very narrow, well defined parts to get it through the courts. So they again divide us this time financially and manpower because there are a very limited number of attorneys capable of handling these cases (Caetano was an anomaly - her public defender did an incredible job but the stars aligned for that case also)
Bruen is in playI don’t think this process was any different for many decades, and it it’s still the same squirrel wheel in action.
Something must be different in order for anything different to take place - or they
That is what I am hoping will happen out of that.But that opinion builds a base that if a non-citizen can't be disarmed without full due process then neither can a citizen.
The only other option is that illegals are not part of "The People" and therefore not subject to the bill of rights other protections.That is what I am hoping will happen out of that.
Because he didn't write it.Interesting that Day referred to looking at the summaries - not the actual bill texts - to "start chipping away" at the language.
This is problematic because the summaries are absolute BS; they do not accurately portray the content of either bill whatsoever. The summaries are complete lies and obfuscate critical language of the actual legislation. Much is left out, glossed over, incorrectly summarized, etc. I don't even think he knows what was in his own bill.
When that day comes, I'm taking my money, dogs, wife, and moving to a mountainous corner of some "friendly-ish" state, and minding my own business. No uninvited outsiders welcome. The sign on the driveway will be the 1 and only warning.Lots of talk here about how this won't survive Bruen. Well, if Biden gets re-elected and adds a couple more communist idiots to SCOTUS Bruen will be getting tossed right into the waste basket, so don't count on that saving anyone's rights. Reality sucks.
Feds don't have a problem putting lowly state level thugs in their place
That’s exactly the mental image when I read that quote!f*** you McKenna, f*** you
Shall not doesn't include just the tip you tyrannical f***.
I hear you on that but she did it once via executive fiat. She won’t push the AGs office to prosecute anyone just one of the same bs since 2016 just fear of what if isn’t that what happened? These threads are a proof of what she has accomplished with her press release 8 years ago.
Have you heard of Randy Weaver?When that day comes, I'm taking my money, dogs, wife, and moving to a mountainous corner of some "friendly-ish" state, and minding my own business. No uninvited outsiders welcome. The sign on the driveway will be the 1 and only warning.
She didn’t enforce anything the first time either. For not enforcing anything she got plenty of results.She didn't "do" anything by fiat. She said she would do things by fiat... and then didn't bother.
That's a BIG difference. She could issue an executive order, I guess, if she wanted to... but it would be toothless. It could never be enforced; the moment anyone got prosecuted, the whole house of cards would tumble. We'd all know that, meaning that ploy won't work a second time.
She didn’t enforce anything the first time either. For not enforcing anything she got plenty of results.
I’m not surprised by anything. If you believe things have been working like they were pre2016 that’s great. For some that could be the case but by reading all these posts in here and the uncertainty I get a different vibe. For some is business as usual for others is wondering if they can make a functional firearm.You skipped my last sentence.
I mean, feel free to look at this as negatively as you wish. It's fine to be a pessimist, and it's fine to be a pants-shitter. But don't be surprised to get some pushback.
If scotus strikes down AWB as unconstitutional and the local/state police continue to enforce it are you saying that those police and departments won't get hit with section 1983 suits?Qualified Immunity has nothing to do with the feds vs the states.
Qualified Immunity protects state actors (federal and state) from CIVIL liability when their victims sue.
That’s it. Criminal charges are unaffected by QI.
There are literally tens of thousands of post Healey guns out there.I’m not surprised by anything. If you believe things have been working like they were pre2016 that’s great. For some that could be the case but by reading all these posts in here and the uncertainty I get a different vibe. For some is business as usual for others is wondering if they can make a functional firearm.
Why do you think I am so set against grandfathering in the new bill?Lots of talk here about how this won't survive Bruen. Well, if Biden gets re-elected and adds a couple more communist idiots to SCOTUS Bruen will be getting tossed right into the waste basket, so don't count on that saving anyone's rights. Reality sucks.
I’m not surprised by anything. If you believe things have been working like they were pre2016 that’s great. For some that could be the case but by reading all these posts in here and the uncertainty I get a different vibe. For some is business as usual for others is wondering if they can make a functional firearm.
I said nothing of the sort.If scotus strikes down AWB as unconstitutional and the local/state police continue to enforce it are you saying that those police and departments won't get hit with section 1983 suits?
I post that there would be lucrative suits against state actors which implies civil.