LGBTQ+++@*&$ in NH Taking Up Guns

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Don't like a drag queen story hour? Then don't go.
Don't like bible studies? Don't go.
Don't want to study the Koran? Don't go.
Don't want woke tv in your living room? unsubscribe.

Don't want your kids reading certain books? Tell them
Don't want your kids being indoctrinated? Well raise them right and they'll come out just fine.

My feeling is that all of the decisions are between the parents and the child. If a parent says no sex class, then they take some other class instead. If another parent says, hell yeah indoctrinate the little rug rat, then so be it.

The left controls the media because the right doesn't want to and people still cling to the bitter nipple of traditional media (heavens to Mergatroid no football/hockey/wwe. I'm going to find a book to read now).

Don't want your kids watching porn, lock down the phone. So many people in this country can't even sync their damn phone in the car with blue tooth. It's just mind blowing. It's not hard to lock down a phone.
ok, two can play these games.

Don't want to keep the baby? pay for abortion yourself!
Can't get into college because you didn't want to study hard? Go to college that will accept your crappy grades!
Don't want to pay for college? don't go to college!
Don't like person wearing "Jesus Saves" t-shirt in the mall? Go to another mall!
Don't like confederate statues? Go places where there aren't any.
Don't have a clinic that will abort the baby? Move to the state that does
Don't want to got to lose your job? show up!
Want a wedding cake of two gay dudes kissing, go to a bakery that will do it!
Don't like Fox? Don't watch.
Don't like conservatives, stop doxing nice Jewish kids from Newton that are pro-Israel.
Don't like to recite Pledge of Allegiance every morning in school? go to school that doesn't do it!

Mind you, I'm not a conservative. I am a JFK liberal! I have seen the points made on the left and the right but It doesn't mean both sides are somehow morally equal. The hypocrisy and the evil of the left is astonishingly larger. There is NO comparison between the evil that is the left and the conservatives. There aren't any conservative ANTIFA that throw cement-milk mix at veterans and conservative homosexuals.

"The conservatives think the left is wrong. The left thinks conservatives are evil" - this phrase expresses the best the disproportionate level of evil on the left.
 
ok, two can play these games.

Don't want to keep the baby? pay for abortion yourself!
Can't get into college because you didn't want to study hard? Go to college that will accept your crappy grades!
Don't want to pay for college? don't go to college!
Don't like person wearing "Jesus Saves" t-shirt in the mall? Go to another mall!
Don't like confederate statues? Go places where there aren't any.
Don't have a clinic that will abort the baby? Move to the state that does
Don't want to got to lose your job? show up!
Want a wedding cake of two gay dudes kissing, go to a bakery that will do it!
Don't like Fox? Don't watch.
Don't like conservatives, stop doxing nice Jewish kids from Newton that are pro-Israel.
Don't like to recite Pledge of Allegiance every morning in school? go to school that doesn't do it!

Mind you, I'm not a conservative. I am a JFK liberal! I have seen the points made on the left and the right but It doesn't mean both sides are somehow morally equal. The hypocrisy and the evil of the left is astonishingly larger. There is NO comparison between the evil that is the left and the conservatives. There aren't any conservative ANTIFA that throw cement-milk mix at veterans and conservative homosexuals.

"The conservatives think the left is wrong. The left thinks conservatives are evil" - this phrase expresses the best the disproportionate level of evil on the left.
Why can't both "official" parties be evil?

I'm sure there are honorable liberals (I mean, I don't actually KNOW of any, but there must be some). I know there are honorable conservatives. Just they aren't throwing molatov cocktails at each other as the Repubmocrat party leaders would like.
 
Okay here's the choices:

democrats: we'll leave you alone to live your life. We won't interfere in how you want to organize your bodily autonomy.

republicans: you need to pray the gay away. Oh what's that your buddhist? Well you need to convert and become a Christian to live in our Jesus-themed utopia.

There can be things that transcend gun rights and the right of people to be left alone is just as important to the next guy as it is to you. Republicans are making an enormously calculated blunder in order to appeal to a small percentage of the republican voting base.
But I want to be left alone and the Democrat adjenda won't. They are pushing the Gay thing in my grandkids school. They are pushing the environazi stuff. I just want to be left alone and most conservatives don't want to make gays do anything but live their lives without getting in our business. The abortion thing is about limits to perceived life and most have common ground.
 
It doesn't matter if it's a kid or an adult. It's not my kid. It's not my rodeo. If the kid is depressed afterwards then it's on the kids and the parents. This shouldn't be that complicated. I don't care if it's a piercing, or the kid wants to be goth, or whatever. Who cares?

If you have an issue with people who hate conservative Christians take it up with them. In all seriousness I would be in a happier place living with conservative Christians than insufferable marxist a**holes. I'm willing to tolerate a lot of things. I'm not some hard at the wall atheist. I understand that people want to sometimes express their faith and that's fine. I'm even okay with a bible study class in school as long as parents and kids can opt out. Hell I'd love to see a gun club in schools too.

If people learned to respect each other's life choice, for better or for worse, I think a lot of problems would simply vanish. Let me say this and this just speculation on my part okay? I think the transgender craze that we see is a fad and it's is going to fade away and die if we let it. But if you keep stirring the pot it will grow a life of its own.
I totally agree.
 
Yeah but you're not a Dr. I thought and correct if I'm wrong that conservatives don't want the government getting between themselves and their doctor? Or is it all BS?
It's about children not adults.
Children cannot be Transgender because they're NOT adults and don't have the fully formed brains to make that decision.
 
I think you have it backwards VetteGirl. Try to find Victor Davis Hanson's article from a few months ago on why the Left is so far out of the mainstream they are reaching irrelevance.
You seem to forget the massive voter fraud in '22.
 
It's about children not adults.
Children cannot be Transgender because they're NOT adults and don't have the fully formed brains to make that decision.

Lol the real issue is not whether "they can be trans or not".

the real issue is the far left is trying to:

A- take all the power away from the parents WRT accessing drugs and "treatment" up to and including surgery
B- go to the extent that they will make parents "LMNOPDYCFLMNOPQ" liable as negligent parents/child abusers if a parent stops a kid from cutting their dick/tits off or says "no you're not getting hormone treatments/blockers after only declaring yourself trans for 43 days, no sorry, im not signing off on that"
C- demonize parents for being allowed to say "the fact that you think that my 8 year old son who likes dresses or my daughter who likes trucks is "transgender" is f***ing insane, can you all just f*** off and let my kid grow instead of filling their head with nonsense?" then if its a thing we'll figure it out" they're basically trying to throw anyone who has that belief in prison or take their kids away from them, that's basically the end game. Even those who want to be pragmatists are punished by the leftists on this
one.
 
It's about children not adults.
Children cannot be Transgender because they're NOT adults and don't have the fully formed brains to make that decision.

It's not your child, it's not your decision to make. Jesus, we have millions of these non violent felony laws on the books. How many more do we need?
 
You seem to forget the massive voter fraud in '22.

The left is doing ballot harvesting since 2020. The right stood around like a bunch of Gomers and let the left do it and did nothing. Want to beat the left, be smarter. Ballot harvest.
 
But I want to be left alone and the Democrat adjenda won't. They are pushing the Gay thing in my grandkids school. They are pushing the environazi stuff. I just want to be left alone and most conservatives don't want to make gays do anything but live their lives without getting in our business. The abortion thing is about limits to perceived life and most have common ground.
Home school, run for school committee. You have a choice, stand around and complain or put yourself in the situation and stop it.
 
Both parts can be true.

In the same way that this is (statistically) the safest time in the history of humanity, it is also true that there are people who hurt people; and this is why we carry.

Unfortunately, if it bleeds it leads. The result is that we hear about people being attacked, and rarely hear about how infrequent it really is. On top of that, the northeast is a relatively safe area, especially for queer folks. Then they travel out of the places they know to be safe, to areas they're told to fear, and they feel how they've been taught they're supposed to.

Some of us try to share different perspectives. Many of us get static when we do. And we can't really choose how reporters will write about us - which usually ends up as some sort of half-hearted "public interest" story: isn't it crazy, some gays like guns!?
Is there really a "a rising chorus of threats against LGBTQ+ people"?
 
Why can't both "official" parties be evil?

I'm sure there are honorable liberals (I mean, I don't actually KNOW of any, but there must be some). I know there are honorable conservatives. Just they aren't throwing molatov cocktails at each other as the Repubmocrat party leaders would like.

They're both evil, 100% on that one. There are some honest liberals out there. There are people on the left that are more along the lines of classical liberals. But they are being drowned out by the crazies. Same thing with the right. Sensible level headed people are drowned out by the crazies.
 
President Trump appointed openly Gay Ric Grennell as Ambassador to Germany and the Krauts hated him because he was a Conservative, Talk about hypocrites! He was extremely competent and respected, and I don't remember any Conservative Christians burning Gay Pride Flags in protest. He later became acting DNI Director.

The Biden Admin appoints Mayor Pete as Secretary of Transportation, a post he has no qualifications for other than being gay, and he's on Paternity leave for 4 months during the pandemic shutdown and supply chain fiasco. During the Xmas Southwest shutdown he was in Portugal with his husband and kids and it took him 3 weeks to get to East Palestine where he looked like a little kid in his vest and hard hat. Should we even mention sashaying Sammy Brinton and his marvelous stiletto heels which Mayor Pete's hubby loved.

Conservatives and Christians are much more accepting of other points of view and opinions than Leftist Dems by far.
 
ok, two can play these games.

Don't want to keep the baby? pay for abortion yourself! (agreed)
Can't get into college because you didn't want to study hard? Go to college that will accept your crappy grades! (agreed)
Don't want to pay for college? don't go to college! (agreed)
Don't like person wearing "Jesus Saves" t-shirt in the mall? Go to another mall! (agreed)
Don't like confederate statues? Go places where there aren't any. (agreed)
Don't have a clinic that will abort the baby? Move to the state that does (agreed)
Don't want to got to lose your job? show up! (agreed)
Want a wedding cake of two gay dudes kissing, go to a bakery that will do it! (agreed)
Don't like Fox? Don't watch. (agreed)
Don't like conservatives, stop doxing nice Jewish kids from Newton that are pro-Israel. (agreed)
Don't like to recite Pledge of Allegiance every morning in school? go to school that doesn't do it! (agreed)

Mind you, I'm not a conservative. I am a JFK liberal! I have seen the points made on the left and the right but It doesn't mean both sides are somehow morally equal. The hypocrisy and the evil of the left is astonishingly larger. There is NO comparison between the evil that is the left and the conservatives. There aren't any conservative ANTIFA that throw cement-milk mix at veterans and conservative homosexuals.

"The conservatives think the left is wrong. The left thinks conservatives are evil" - this phrase expresses the best the disproportionate level of evil on the left.
See I agreed on everything, now what?
 
It's not your child, it's not your decision to make. Jesus, we have millions of these non violent felony laws on the books. How many more do we need?
Really? Does the law allow children to vote, buy alcohol, tobacco, sign a contract, get a credit card, decide to go to school or not?
NO!
You believe a parent can approve of a child transitioning by mutilating their bodies in irreversible surgery?
What age? 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 yrs old?
 
From Townhall.com

"I know I’m supposed to care, I just don’t. I know it’s mean, I just don’t give a damn. I’ll even go so far as to say I like it. Being told to care, or more to the point “obey,” is not something I do. So I have a policy of avoiding people who insist people do things to make them feel better, who try to force people to care, and/or list their “pronouns” in their social media bios. I’m not interested in your delusions.

I’m speaking, of course, about the pronoun game the fascistic left has embraced in their latest attempt to control everyone. If you can control what people can talk about AND how things can be talked about you’ve won. There’s no two ways about it, having the power to prevent or compel speech removes control from the individual to whatever entity is dictating the terms: government, academia, media, entertainment industry, whatever.

Do not play the game.

You don’t have to be rude, but who really cares if you are? Honestly, these people are seeking to control you, if you make them cry so freaking what!

Pronouns are the dumbest weapon the left has come up with in the fight, but it’s also the most personal. They have only inspired laughs when a news story about some rapist or pervert exposing himself in a women’s bathroom somewhere is coupled with a mugshot of a dude that makes the late Jerry Garcia look well put together and they refer to him as a “woman.”

Couple that reality with the fact that only the most defective and perverse progressive leftists are down with the surgical butchering of the bodies of young children or the permanent altering of their development through irreversible hormones and you begin to see why they keep trying to open a new front in the arena of the culture war.

While they claim it is about compassion, it is about control. And let me be frank, were it actually about compassion I still would not care. I will not be pressured into participating in someone else’s delusions simply because not doing so risks giving them “the sads.”

I know, that’s heartless, but it’s really not. These people have mental problems and need help. They are either the product of a home where they weren’t loved enough or were coddled too much. Or they were abused. Whatever the case, they need help. Indulging them is not compassion.

Leftists will tell you the “trans community” has a higher rate of attempted suicide to try to manipulate people into complicity. That’s really just another example of why true compassion is not indulgence but mental help.

The simple fact is no one knows what it feels like to be another human being – what a taste or smell is like to someone else, or a feeling – let alone what another gender feels like. But they are desperate to feel special, whatever that means to them, and they see this as an easy path to that. It’s not, nor should it be. There are no shortcuts to being special, existence is not worthy of celebration, accomplishment is. And being is not accomplishing.

I saw a video recently of this weirdo leftist woman who insists she’s not a woman, that she’s somehow not a woman but something else. Again, I don’t care. But what she said in her video (because she posted it in a desperate attempt for attention and sympathy) gave up the game.

A bunch of her former co-workers wouldn’t play along with her delusion by using the pronouns “they/them” for her because she is an individual woman, not a third person group. She whined to HR and they told her to get over herself. That’s the exact proper thing to do, though it’s being outlawed in blue states.

This woman showed the left’s cards when she said HR told her “I could not police how people were speaking about me, that I could not tell them how to talk about me.”

That’s the whole game right there: how people talk ABOUT her when she’s not around. That’s when you use third person pronouns, not when talking directly with someone. “Hey Bill, how is he doing today?” is not a sentence a sane person ever says. Change “he” to “they” and it’s even dumber.

This woman, and everyone engaged in this delusion, wants to control how people refer to them when they’re not around. Then they reserve the right to be offended by it when they hear about it later. And being offended is the social credit score for the modern Democrat Party.

When I’ve said this in the past I’m always met with the suicide claim and asked if I don’t care about trans people. First, Democrats try to herd people into a world where they only care about people who look as close to them as possible, and I’m not “trans,” so I wouldn’t want to be accused of cultural appropriation or whatever.

That being said, I do not want people trying to commit suicide, which makes my position the most compassionate position on the issue. By not indulging these fragile people in need of professional mental help I am encouraging them to seek it. If someone’s existence is teetering on the edge to the point that using the actual pronoun appropriate for them or refusal to embrace a biological delusion could push them over the edge then they are a ticking time bomb. They are so unstable that something will, eventually (probably sooner rather than later), make them harm themselves. Insisting they get help from the start, rather than indulging in that delusion, will actually save more lives than postponing the inevitable will.

Of course, this assumes Democrats actually want what’s best for people and are not just using these fragile people to exert a measure of control over everyone else. So shove your pronouns where the sun doesn’t shine and get these kids some help. If adults want to ruin their lives or bodies, they can knock themselves out. But not the kids. No matter what, I’ll never play along."



Derek Hunter is the host of a free daily podcast
 
Really? Does the law allow children to vote, buy alcohol, tobacco, sign a contract, get a credit card, decide to go to school or not?
NO!
You believe a parent can approve of a child transitioning by mutilating their bodies in irreversible surgery?
What age? 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 yrs old?

This is a doctor, a patient and the parents. This is not about buying alcohol. I'm not going to engage in whataboutism.

A parent can say no if they want or they can say yes. I'm 100% in non government interference in parent-child relationships.
 
From Townhall.com



You don’t have to be rude, but who really cares if you are? Honestly, these people are seeking to control you, if you make them cry so freaking what!

Pronouns are the dumbest weapon the left has come up with in the fight, but it’s also the most personal. They have only inspired laughs when a news story about some rapist or pervert exposing himself in a women’s bathroom somewhere is coupled with a mugshot of a dude that makes the late Jerry Garcia look well put together and they refer to him as a “woman.”

Couple that reality with the fact that only the most defective and perverse progressive leftists are down with the surgical butchering of the bodies of young children or the permanent altering of their development through irreversible hormones and you begin to see why they keep trying to open a new front in the arena of the culture war.

While they claim it is about compassion, it is about control. And let me be frank, were it actually about compassion I still would not care. I will not be pressured into participating in someone else’s delusions simply because not doing so risks giving them “the sads.”

I know, that’s heartless, but it’s really not. These people have mental problems and need help. They are either the product of a home where they weren’t loved enough or were coddled too much. Or they were abused. Whatever the case, they need help. Indulging them is not compassion.

Leftists will tell you the “trans community” has a higher rate of attempted suicide to try to manipulate people into complicity. That’s really just another example of why true compassion is not indulgence but mental help.

The simple fact is no one knows what it feels like to be another human being – what a taste or smell is like to someone else, or a feeling – let alone what another gender feels like. But they are desperate to feel special, whatever that means to them, and they see this as an easy path to that. It’s not, nor should it be. There are no shortcuts to being special, existence is not worthy of celebration, accomplishment is. And being is not accomplishing.

I saw a video recently of this weirdo leftist woman who insists she’s not a woman, that she’s somehow not a woman but something else. Again, I don’t care. But what she said in her video (because she posted it in a desperate attempt for attention and sympathy) gave up the game.

A bunch of her former co-workers wouldn’t play along with her delusion by using the pronouns “they/them” for her because she is an individual woman, not a third person group. She whined to HR and they told her to get over herself. That’s the exact proper thing to do, though it’s being outlawed in blue states.

This woman showed the left’s cards when she said HR told her “I could not police how people were speaking about me, that I could not tell them how to talk about me.”

That’s the whole game right there: how people talk ABOUT her when she’s not around. That’s when you use third person pronouns, not when talking directly with someone. “Hey Bill, how is he doing today?” is not a sentence a sane person ever says. Change “he” to “they” and it’s even dumber.

This woman, and everyone engaged in this delusion, wants to control how people refer to them when they’re not around. Then they reserve the right to be offended by it when they hear about it later. And being offended is the social credit score for the modern Democrat Party.

When I’ve said this in the past I’m always met with the suicide claim and asked if I don’t care about trans people. First, Democrats try to herd people into a world where they only care about people who look as close to them as possible, and I’m not “trans,” so I wouldn’t want to be accused of cultural appropriation or whatever.

That being said, I do not want people trying to commit suicide, which makes my position the most compassionate position on the issue. By not indulging these fragile people in need of professional mental help I am encouraging them to seek it. If someone’s existence is teetering on the edge to the point that using the actual pronoun appropriate for them or refusal to embrace a biological delusion could push them over the edge then they are a ticking time bomb. They are so unstable that something will, eventually (probably sooner rather than later), make them harm themselves. Insisting they get help from the start, rather than indulging in that delusion, will actually save more lives than postponing the inevitable will.

Of course, this assumes Democrats actually want what’s best for people and are not just using these fragile people to exert a measure of control over everyone else. So shove your pronouns where the sun doesn’t shine and get these kids some help. If adults want to ruin their lives or bodies, they can knock themselves out. But not the kids. No matter what, I’ll never play along."



Derek Hunter is the host of a free daily podcast
I don't play the pronoun game. If some wants to identify as a great white shark, well la di da. I'm not inviting them over any time soon.

Also I believe that the suicide rate in the transgender community is no different than society at large.

Be offended at controlled speech. I am as well. No one can tell me to say anything I don't want to. I'll be considerate and generous in my use of words but that doesn't mean I believe it and that is what makes the difference. In actual fact I think it's a bunch of low grade malarkey invented by people who are intolerably bored. But to understand this whole pronoun thing you need to listen to some marxist academics to understand it.


On a lighter note this is all I have for the great white shark person:

 
They're both evil, 100% on that one. There are some honest liberals out there. There are people on the left that are more along the lines of classical liberals. But they are being drowned out by the crazies. Same thing with the right. Sensible level headed people are drowned out by the crazies.
I took some artistic license. I know there's good and evil on both sides.

I affiliate to the right because I rightly or wrongly think the right will erode my 2A rights more slowly than the left.

And frankly the lunatic left fringe seems more violent and aggressive than the lunatic right fringe. I haven't noticed very many riots started by the right.

Regardless, I pick and choose what to support, what to accept, what to tolerate and what to resist, based on the topic's merits, not whether I'm told to by media or the RNC. Some of my ideas have not been well received over the years, by either side [laugh]
 
This is a doctor, a patient and the parents. This is not about buying alcohol. I'm not going to engage in whataboutism.

A parent can say no if they want or they can say yes. I'm 100% in non government interference in parent-child relationships.
First, do no harm.
Removal or surgical alteration of correctly formed, functional body parts in order to better fit a mental image is not care.
Can a parent give an anorexic child diet pills or get them liposuction to help their body fit their mental image?
No, that would be considered abuse.
Altering a person's functional sexual organs to change appearance and in doings rendering them sterile is also abusive.
 
This is a doctor, a patient and the parents. This is not about buying alcohol. I'm not going to engage in whataboutism.

A parent can say no if they want or they can say yes. I'm 100% in non government interference in parent-child relationships.
Who says the DR is not biased and parents are not functional idiots or easily manipulated by Trans Activists/Teachers, etc.
NO F****** WAY should a child be allowed to make that decision.
So,14 yr old girls should be able to engage in sex, video it live on the web and charge the public to watch as long as Mommy says it's OK?
There are child labor laws for a reason, children are easily exploited by adults.
No difference!
 
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Is there really a "a rising chorus of threats against LGBTQ+ people"?
I can't speak to any "rising chorus." Are numbers factually higher today than in times past? Is reporting simply increasing? Are some people crying wolf? I don't know. I doubt anyone can.

What I can say, is that (for a number of reasons) people who are obvious members of sexual minority communities are at subject to particular risks of violence that don't inherently apply to everyone. People attending gay bars, etc. have been selected as a function of those locations.

And it's also kind of irrelevant - except that, having this extra information, some folks within those communities feel more comfortable seeking folks they view as similar and understanding when looking for training/guidance - at least initially.
 
The only gun grabbers are these idiots. There is so much hypocrisy in them you can smell it.



Well duh, you vote for people who want to take our guns and freedoms, why would you be welcome?



Again I guarantee you there isn't a Trump or Sununu voter in the group, they vote for LEFTISTS who want to DISARM everyone. The first rule of being a leftist is being a hypocrite.

I wonder where the political donations of their leadership go to.

These leftists gun groups make me laugh. "We like guns too, we vote for everyone who wants to take them from you, why don't you accept us as gun owners?"
That right there has more to do with it than their sexual identity .
In fact why does anyone need to even know their sexual identity ?
I don't recall ever opening an introduction to anyone that started out with "Hi I'm Dadstoys and I sure do like the p*ssy."
Not that I can recall anyway.
Just show up and be a person for f*cks sake.
 
This kind of confuses me. Do they still feel persecuted or something?

No different than anybody else. In my opinion try being white and a taxpayer anywhere.

Wave your flag is all you want..

Like we have angry mob, dragging them out, and burning them at the stake..

The sad thing is they keep adding letters to the community and a lot of those people really don’t like groomers and f***ing transgender strip clubs for minors
A couple of my gay friends are horrified by it.
They in no way want to be associated with obvious pedophiles .
 
It's not your child, it's not your decision to make. Jesus, we have millions of these non violent felony laws on the books. How many more do we need?
One of the things you're forgetting is the left is trying to even remove the decision making ability from the child's own parents at this point. At first none of this trans agenda really bothered me but then when I saw what they were actually doing to the parents I was f****** horrified and disgusted by the whole thing. Parents are essentially being punished for making decisions about their kids healthcare/well being that happen to contradict some doctor or therapists ideas. If you don't believe me talk to some parents who have actually had dycfmnopq up in their s*** about this issue.... its becoming a "thing" and a pretty dangerous one.
 
No matter where you stand on the transgender issue, some people inside the LGBT community see these raft of new anti-trans laws as a threat. So vote dem and be left alone but deal with gun rights issues of vote repubs and be essentially ghetto-ized but maybe with a gun because it's not like repubs are 2A champions. The right will lose this culture battle I hope you realize and probably end up ceding more political ground.
It's not an issue with trans , it's an issue with trans that do whatever they can to get next to other peoples kids.
It's like saying you must hate all priests because you want the ones who butt rape little boys punished.
It's unfortunate that the pedo faction is the one getting all the press and the ones that just want to be left alone get dragged into the sewer with them.
Not like gun owners aren't used to getting the same treatment when some mental defective goes on a shooting spree.
 
First, do no harm.
Removal or surgical alteration of correctly formed, functional body parts in order to better fit a mental image is not care.
Can a parent give an anorexic child diet pills or get them liposuction to help their body fit their mental image?
No, that would be considered abuse.
Altering a person's functional sexual organs to change appearance and in doings rendering them sterile is also abusive.
It's worth noting though that the needle is being moved way past that.... let's say some kid grew up as trans and goes like 12 years and parents agree blah blah. Everyone's on the same page and whatever surgery happens. That's one thing. That was the old way. It's an entirely other thing where now the system is trying to take all any and all power away from the parents at all in terms of determining treatment were basically looking at a collision course where parents will be put into jail or have their kids taken for saying their kid can't get their dick or tits cut off until they're an adult and that's just f***** up beyond any measure of comprehension.
 
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