Leominster - Followup on 2 kids arrested with name list, gun - dad gets bagged now.

[drgrant]

Found this on the Sentinel, buried in the Police Logs....

http://www.sentinelandenterprise.com/police/ci_7570402

LEOMINSTER -- The father of one of two Leominster High School students arrested last month on gun charges was arraigned Friday on six gun-related charges, according to Leominster District Court records.

Dale R. Poirier, 49, of 44 Christine St., faces five counts of improperly storing a firearm and one count of failing to report a firearm transfer/loss from the October incident. The father of one of Poirier's son's friends called police after allegedly finding a gun in the friend's room.

The LHS students, both 16, were arrested.

Police say they had a short list of names that included LHS students and personnel. Police also said the two had access to other weapons.

The teens were arraigned last month in juvenile court.

A report from Det. Stephen Sandoval states the "two unlicensed young men took the handgun from the Poirier's master bedroom closet."

The teens allegedly took a Dan Wesson .357 six-shot revolver, which Sandoval reported was not secured.

The teens told police one of them might have inadvertently defeated the trigger lock, but Sandoval reported the lock has not been found, according to court records.

Poirier allegedly told police his license to carry firearms had expired and he had planned to bring the guns to the police station but never did, Sandoval wrote. He led police into his house's finished basement, where he had "four long rifles standing upright, unsecured, unlocked, and openly visible."

The weapons were turned over to the state police lab for certification. Sandoval reported Poirier's license to carry expired in January 2006.

Judge John J. Curran Jr. released Poirier Friday on personal recognizance. He is due in court Dec. 20 for a pretrial hearing.

 

[Admin]

 

[Scrivener]

Poirier allegedly told police his license to carry firearms had expired and he had planned to bring the guns to the police station but never did, Sandoval wrote. He led police into his house's finished basement, where he had "four long rifles standing upright, unsecured, unlocked, and openly visible.

File under TSTL *





Too Stupid To Live

 

[Admin]

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Too Stupid To Live

Well in most other states it's not a crime to have firearms without a LTC.

Only in the communist ones.

 

[Scrivener]

Well in most other states it's not a crime to have firearms without a LTC.

Only in the communist ones.

Your over and mis-use of the term "communist" notwithstanding, what other states do - or don't - is irrelevant and you know it. The guy was a cretin, and on several levels. Specious asides and misdirection about what other states don't require in no way excuse this guy's screw-ups.

 

[Admin]

Having unsecured firearms in your house is a screw up?

 

[Admin]

Your over and mis-use of the term "communist" notwithstanding, what other states do - or don't - is irrelevant and you know it.

Have you lived any decent amout of time outside the liberal feel good utopia of MA?

 

[Scrivener]

Having unsecured firearms in your house is a screw up?

Yes. As you well know, but here's a refresher for you:

G.L.c. 140, § 131L. Weapons stored or kept by owner; inoperable by any person other than owner or lawfully authorized user; punishment.

(a) It shall be unlawful to store or keep any firearm, rifle or shotgun including, but not limited to, large capacity weapons, or machine gun in any place unless such weapon is secured in a locked container or equipped with a tamper-resistant mechanical lock or other safety device, properly engaged so as to render such weapon inoperable by any person other than the owner or other lawfully authorized user. For purposes of this section, such weapon shall not be deemed stored or kept if carried by or under the control of the owner or other lawfully authorized user.

Duh!

But wait; there's MORE!

In addition to the foregoing, this twit:

1. LET his LTC EXPIRE!

2. Declared his intention to give his guns to the cops; and

3. The real winner - AFTER his even stupider son created a "Gun At School" incident, dad;

a. Does not declare the missing gun AND

b. INVITED THE COPS IN TO SEE HIS UNSECURED GUNS!

Just what level of idiocy must be achieved for you to acknowledge it?

And, in response to your attempted misdirection, I've lived in three other states besides this one. Have you ever lived in one where paved roads weren't considered frivolous?

 

[Admin]

Oh you're right, in MA the HUGE government considers it a screw up.

How silly of me.

I'm not saying the guy is smart by any stretch of the imagination, however an unsecured firearm without a license in the privacy of your own home shouldn't be, and in most of the country isn't a crime. Unless of course you live in the SOCIALIST state of MA. Is socialist a better word to describe MA? With a state government that ignores it's voters I figured communism was a better description.

And for the record the road is paved about 40 feet from my paved driveway.

 

[LoginName]

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Too Stupid To Live

I take it this is one case you won't be representing in court?

 

[Scrivener]

I take it this is one case you won't be representing in court?

Twits like him make the rest of us look bad. A pox on his house unto the third generation.

 

[Scrivener]

Is socialist a better word to describe MA? With a state government that ignores it's voters I figured communism was a better description.

Right.

Because the fascists are SO responsive to the electorate.

 

[Cross-X]

Having unsecured firearms in your house is a screw up?

Yes, in Duvallistan it sure is.

Laddie, have you already forgotten how difficult it is here for gunnies?

D.

 

[Cross-X]

I take it this is one case you won't be representing in court?

Savvy lawyers will check the would-be client's money $upply before making _that_ key determination about representation.

 

[RUT]

Having unsecured firearms in your house is a screw up?

Not in OUR state it isn't!!!

 

[Patriot]

Savvy lawyers will check the would-be client's money $upply before making _that_ key determination about representation.

This could be your "finest hour" Darius! Getting this guy to walk would build the old resume
big time. Try the "If it doesn't fit, you have to acquit" defense for starters.

 

[jar]

Having unsecured firearms in your house is a screw up?

I think it is if you have children living at home. Even if the law didn't require it, I'd lock everything up when I anyone I didn't trust completely would be in my house.

Even if you trust your older children around firearms unsupervised, I wouldn't trust their friends.

 

[Len-2A Training]

Since this twit had a LTC, he SHOULD HAVE known the law about locked storage. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Inviting the police into the house to search or see the guns is about the stupidest thing he could do. He could have at least put some locks on them, locked them in a cabinet, etc. BEFORE inviting them in.

Giving the guns away instead of selling them also shows diminished brain capacity.

We don't agree with the law, but at least he should have been smart enough to cover his butt.

TSTL describes him aptly!

 

[jcr]

failing to report a firearm transfer/loss from the October incident

AFTER his even stupider son created a "Gun At School" incident,
Does not declare the missing gun

I've not memorized the F-10, is there a check box for reporting a loss?

If this is already illegal, what are the idiots up on Beacon Hill doing pushing a bill to make it illegal to fail to report a loss?

There was no incident at a school. Perhaps the boys were planning one, but it was at another home that the alleged plot fell apart with the other father calling police.

Without knowing lots more details, I assume that events went pretty fast after that, and while the guy might have checked his closet for the revolver, it may never have occurred that it was his gun involved. And isn't there some number of days that one has to file the F-10.

But never invite the police in to search your home -- no good can come of it.

 

[dwarven1]

Unless of course you live in the SOCIALIST state of MA. Is socialist a better word to describe MA? With a state government that ignores it's voters I figured communism was a better description.

Fascist would be a better description, I think.

I've not memorized the F-10, is there a check box for reporting a loss?

Since I just went through all mine and put them in a folder (and entered the data into a computer based database), I can state that there definitely is such a check box.

 

[Doctordrew]

"The teens allegedly took a Dan Wesson .357 six-shot revolver"
did no one else realize this....a dan and wesson.... SMITH? possibly??

not that its relavent in anyway.

 

[Firetarr]

look it up.

 

[Coyote33]

I wonder if any relation to the Poirier here:
Police link ATM robberies

and here:
Heading off convenience store holdups

 

[z0mbi]

"The teens allegedly took a Dan Wesson .357 six-shot revolver"
did no one else realize this....a dan and wesson.... SMITH? possibly??

not that its relavent in anyway.

Always deploy google before declaring that someone else is an idiot

 

[In_God_We_Trust]

But wait; there's MORE!

In addition to the foregoing, this twit:

1. LET his LTC EXPIRE!

2. Declared his intention to give his guns to the cops; and

3. The real winner - AFTER his even stupider son created a "Gun At School" incident, dad;

a. Does not declare the missing gun AND

b. INVITED THE COPS IN TO SEE HIS UNSECURED GUNS!

Basically, this guy was:

dumb as a sack of hammers
few tiles missing from his space shuttle
room temperature IQ
A titanic intellect... In a world full of icebergs
All missile, no warhead
Bright as a Zippo lighter without a flint
He's so dense, light bends around him
RS232C brain with a DIN connector
Would make an excellent illustration in a proctology textbook

Talk about asking to get thrown in jail for a LONG time... Is this case going to Bristol County for the "Gun Court"?

 

[In_God_We_Trust]

"The teens allegedly took a Dan Wesson .357 six-shot revolver"
did no one else realize this....a dan and wesson.... SMITH? possibly??

not that its relavent in anyway.

That was probably >$1200

 

[clinotus]

Just a slight bit of advocacy for the idiot. He was more than likely caught up in the events and bought into the entire nanny machine when he invited the police in. I'm sure the charges caught him way off guard as he thought he was doing the right thing.

 

[tele_mark]

My comment in the blog:

Too bad Mr. Poirier wasn't a minority living in Boston -- then all he would've had to do when the police knocked was let them in without a warrant, and he wouldn't have been charged with any firearms violations for what the police found.......

 

[In_God_We_Trust]

My comment in the blog:
Too bad Mr. Poirier wasn't a minority living in Boston -- then all he would've had to do when the police knocked was let them in without a warrant, and he wouldn't have been charged with any firearms violations for what the police found.......

+1 NS...

 

[dwarven1]

"The teens allegedly took a Dan Wesson .357 six-shot revolver"
did no one else realize this....a dan and wesson.... SMITH? possibly??

Oh, I realized it all right. My first thought was "Oh, hell... another great gun headed for the scrap pile."

Dan Wesson's are VERY nice guns.