KAG ARMS at the MILL, Prices Are Awesome

alx said:
And chalk one more visit to the bare walled shop. What is the attraction there? I still dont get it. A Muslim dude selling guns to red necks with intellectual flare? (Yours humbly included)? Overplayed. Anyway…

This time I felt like a real man- parked at the correct parking lot (pro tip - if you just got your driver license - do t park there- it is not for the faint of heart… (or for those older folks with weak hearts trying to squeeze big pickup trucks). Last time I saw big things go through small places I got babies. I am talking about the delivery of course - not the process of causing it since the geometry there is somewhat the opposite. Of course YMMV. Anyway- feeling empowered by my parking prowess I entered the shop through the correct door.

The things I learned this time visiting the Egyptian wonderland were as follows:

Glocks are not real- well at least those on his back wall. Not very killy at all.

My PTSD when I see the business end of a (toy) gun is still alive and well- Thank you wide guy for being there so I could hide behind you.

In search for readers' interest media will post (the darnest) things they might not agree with- in MA that is a news- worthy item by itself. I will leave it at that.

The owner has a way of doing things and if you rush him he will scold you like a little kid. Guilty.

The guberment should not have your money. No problem here- my wife has my money so I must agree.

All his neighbors have strangely identical first name- Karen. The chances of that are mind blowing. Who woudda thunk? EDM - no, not electronic dance music - more like Entitled Democratic Magic.

Oh, and still no dog.

So.. don’t go there, nothing to see, one star because I cannot give zero.
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I have a feeling I will be seeing you for the 4th time this Month. Still No dog.

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alx said:
... this is not my experience. Upon inquiring about a specific Egyptian souvenir I was informed that this particular one is no good, junk and I should seriously reconsider my desire for a snow globe pyramid (way to kill my child fantasies). . Fast forward 30 mins later I was told that -the-one-I-wanted pyramid trinket is in fact -the-one- I want. I ultimately got confused, but the excellent price on the snow globe was a deal maker. Needless to say the owner must have a souvenir- express courier from Kairo because the trinket automagically appeared couple days later. Will change my initial rating of 1 star for this particular transaction to 2 stars as at the end I got what I wanted, but the owner employed a bait-switch-back-to- bait again technique which caused me undue stress and self doubt which were amplified by the simple fact that there was no (comfort) dog at the shop to calm me down (see? I can act Gen Z too). Come to think of it - it was still a 1 star experience because of the mind games and lack of said shop dog.
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@alx showed up today clean shaven and donning a fresh hair cut. Seemed pleased on how fast his TTI Combat showed up. Did not make any mistakes on his 4473. He also promised to bring his dog next time (Which is probably going to be next weekend given his track record). Everything was great until he put his Atlas pistol in my hand and now I want one. He does not get that as a Gun Dealer you are not supposed to get High on your own supply.
 
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KAG Arms said:
@alx showed up today clean shaven and donning a fresh hear cut. Seemed pleased on how fast his TTI Combat showed up. Did not make any mistakes on his 4473. He also promised to bring his dog next time (Which is probably going to be next weekend given his track record). Everything was great until he put his Atlas pistol in my hand and now I want one. He does not get that as a Gun Dealer you are not supposed to get High on your own supply.
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Resistance is futile
 
KAG Arms is all smoke and (Egyptian) mirrors. In the funky TTI Canik box I found a cute 2 inch long toolbox cleverly disguised as a pistol replica with screws and bits inside. No doubt the pharaoh got angry and caused a solar eclipse and the shrinkage of the Turkish plastic fantastic into a Canik- shaped tool box. Deceit of the highest quality.

So it is understandable that upon opening the case my newf as well as myself were confused and wondering if we got ripped off. Again.

So… still a solid one star experience due to magical shrinkage of promised goods. Btw, speaking of goods, I have a friend that ordered one of those from a well known FFL and his lead time has been quoted 2 months or longer. There is a nation wide shortage on that one for sure any way you slice it. The Cairo courier on the other hand materialized inside 5 days from my date of request.

And since we are on the more serious topics- gunbroker cant touch KAG Arms prices. True story. Dont believe? Price something that is legal in MA on gunbroker and then give KAG Arms a call… but be committed and ready to buy as you will be offered a deal you can’t refuse. However, the tub with Egyptian Magic is extra.

Another random thought- higher end 2011s are like designer drug - expensive, addictive and can kill but make you feel like a million bucks even when you are laying helpless on the sofa drooling over yourself uncontrollably . Any interest in them is akin to circling the drain- sooner or later you get sucked in. Just give in and get yourself one. Or more. And then come do some action shooting with us :)
 

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alx said:
KAG Arms is all smoke and (Egyptian) mirrors. In the funky TTI Canik box I found a cute 2 inch long toolbox cleverly disguised as a pistol replica with screws and bits inside. No doubt the pharaoh got angry and caused a solar eclipse and the shrinkage of the Turkish plastic fantastic into a Canik- shaped tool box. Deceit of the highest quality.

So it is understandable that upon opening the case my newf as well as myself were confused and wondering if we got ripped off. Again.

So… still a solid one star experience due to magical shrinkage of promised goods. Btw, speaking of goods, I have a friend that ordered one of those from a well known FFL and his lead time has been quoted 2 months or longer. There is a nation wide shortage on that one for sure any way you slice it. The Cairo courier on the other hand materialized inside 5 days from my date of request.

And since we are on the more serious topics- gunbroker cant touch KAG Arms prices. True story. Dont believe? Price something that is legal in MA on gunbroker and then give KAG Arms a call… but be committed and ready to buy as you will be offered a deal you can’t refuse. However, the tub with Egyptian Magic is extra.

Another random thought- higher end 2011s are like designer drug - expensive, addictive and can kill but make you feel like a million bucks even when you are laying helpless on the sofa drooling over yourself uncontrollably . Any interest in them is akin to circling the drain- sooner or later you get sucked in. Just give in and get yourself one. Or more. And then come do some action shooting with us :)
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Shoots these?

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KAG Arms said:
@alx showed up today clean shaven and donning a fresh hair cut. Seemed pleased on how fast his TTI Combat showed up. Did not make any mistakes on his 4473. He also promised to bring his dog next time (Which is probably going to be next weekend given his track record). Everything was great until he put his Atlas pistol in my hand and now I want one. He does not get that as a Gun Dealer you are not supposed to get High on your own supply.
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Since you have no idea what to do with a metal single action gun even if a double stack, I am confused by your emotional response. It will just lead to disappointment. Leave real guns to real people.
 
CrackPot said:
Since you have no idea what to do with a metal single action gun even if a double stack, I am confused by your emotional response. It will just lead to disappointment. Leave real guns to real people.
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You picked my interest. What do real people do with higher end metal single action 1911/2011 beyond competing with them? inquisitive minds feel… inquisitive :)
 
So, today, another visit to @KAG Arms today. An excellent crowd of repeat buyers. My second P365 AXG Legion arrived, and because I was bored, I also got an M17X (and yes, it was indeed just for the optic), so I have an extra M17 I do not know what to do with. The only unfortunate thing is that, as usual, I got delayed, so I have to go back... It is not the long drive that bothers me; it is the fact that Sherif will convince me to buy something else when I come to pick it up. This vicious cycle is a scheme to get me to spend all my money.

And, yes, the dog showed up today.
 
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alx said:
You picked my interest. What do real people do with higher end metal single action 1911/2011 beyond competing with them? inquisitive minds feel… inquisitive :)
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"The quasi-peaceable gentleman of leisure, then, not only consumes of the staff of life beyond the minimum required for subsistence and physical efficiency, but his consumption also undergoes a specialisation as regards the quality of the goods consumed. He consumes freely and of the best, in food, drink, narcotics, shelter, services, ornaments, apparel, weapons and accoutrements, amusements, amulets, and idols or divinities.

In the process of gradual amelioration which takes place in the articles of his consumption, the motive principle and proximate aim of innovation is no doubt the higher efficiency of the improved and more elaborate products for personal comfort and well-being. But that does not remain the sole purpose of their consumption. The canon of reputability is at hand and seizes upon such innovations as are, according to its standard, fit to survive. Since the consumption of these more excellent goods is an evidence of wealth, it becomes honorific; and conversely, the failure to consume in due quantity and quality becomes a mark of inferiority and demerit.

This growth of punctilious discrimination as to qualitative excellence in eating, drinking, etc. presently affects not only the manner of life, but also the training and intellectual activity of the gentleman of leisure. He is no longer simply the successful, aggressive male, -- the man of strength, resource, and intrepidity. In order to avoid stultification he must also cultivate his tastes, for it now becomes incumbent on him to discriminate with some nicety between the noble and the ignoble in consumable goods. He becomes a connoisseur in creditable viands of various degrees of merit, in manly beverages and trinkets, in seemly apparel and architecture, in weapons, games, dancers, and the narcotics.

This cultivation of aesthetic faculty requires time and application, and the demands made upon the gentleman in this direction therefore tend to change his life of leisure into a more or less arduous application to the business of learning how to live a life of ostensible leisure in a becoming way. Closely related to the requirement that the gentleman must consume freely and of the right kind of goods, there is the requirement that he must know how to consume them in a seemly manner. His life of leisure must be conducted in due form. Hence arise good manners. High-bred manners and ways of living are items of conformity to the norm of conspicuous leisure and conspicuous consumption."

-Thornstein Veblen, On Conspicuous Consumption, The Theory of the Leisure Class.
 
KAG Arms said:
"The quasi-peaceable gentleman of leisure, then, not only consumes of the staff of life beyond the minimum required for subsistence and physical efficiency, but his consumption also undergoes a specialisation as regards the quality of the goods consumed. He consumes freely and of the best, in food, drink, narcotics, shelter, services, ornaments, apparel, weapons and accoutrements, amusements, amulets, and idols or divinities.

In the process of gradual amelioration which takes place in the articles of his consumption, the motive principle and proximate aim of innovation is no doubt the higher efficiency of the improved and more elaborate products for personal comfort and well-being. But that does not remain the sole purpose of their consumption. The canon of reputability is at hand and seizes upon such innovations as are, according to its standard, fit to survive. Since the consumption of these more excellent goods is an evidence of wealth, it becomes honorific; and conversely, the failure to consume in due quantity and quality becomes a mark of inferiority and demerit.

This growth of punctilious discrimination as to qualitative excellence in eating, drinking, etc. presently affects not only the manner of life, but also the training and intellectual activity of the gentleman of leisure. He is no longer simply the successful, aggressive male, -- the man of strength, resource, and intrepidity. In order to avoid stultification he must also cultivate his tastes, for it now becomes incumbent on him to discriminate with some nicety between the noble and the ignoble in consumable goods. He becomes a connoisseur in creditable viands of various degrees of merit, in manly beverages and trinkets, in seemly apparel and architecture, in weapons, games, dancers, and the narcotics.

This cultivation of aesthetic faculty requires time and application, and the demands made upon the gentleman in this direction therefore tend to change his life of leisure into a more or less arduous application to the business of learning how to live a life of ostensible leisure in a becoming way. Closely related to the requirement that the gentleman must consume freely and of the right kind of goods, there is the requirement that he must know how to consume them in a seemly manner. His life of leisure must be conducted in due form. Hence arise good manners. High-bred manners and ways of living are items of conformity to the norm of conspicuous leisure and conspicuous consumption."

-Thornstein Veblen, On Conspicuous Consumption, The Theory of the Leisure Class.
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Not that Chris…

“Cogito ergo pew”
 

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