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i hear your logic but i'm not sure there have been enough cases to really know for sure.
IMO if a self defense shooting is clearly in self-defense, e.g. attacker is armed and victim sustained GSW also, then i'm not so sure the victim (i.e. us) would be charged. if we have a magazine >10 rds, the chances of being charged goes up.
it's a risk i suppose each of us just has to assess for ourselves. considering the chances of ever needing my firearm are extremely low, and the average altercation involves 2-3 shots, i feel that having a 10 or less rounds per mag is sufficient (especially in a single stack 9mm). i would rather just not have to deal with the stupid magazine restriction laws in this state.
if it's just shooting at the range, then yeah who cares use whatever mag you like. i've got a whole pile of pre-ban 15 rd G19 and 92fs mags which are for the range, but i use none of them for SD. i don't like dealing with such absurd laws, but it all gets back to Massprudence.
just my system. YMMV.
I wonder what the big deal would be for manufacturers to simply put a non-coded date stamp on their stuff? Obviously, we spend a lot of time trying to figure out when things were made. Why not accommodate us?
Is there a number on the follower , (if this is a glock mag)?
I beleve five and under are preban.
YMMV
ggboy
If i need 29 rounds of .40 then my problems are much bigger than pre- or post-ban
Pre ban square notch factory glock mags have two extra holes under the round indicator. For example 17 holes for a 15 round mag. The two extra holes are closer together so as to not be confused with round indicators. I have two of these mags so yes, they do exist!
Because most sane places don't require you to buy old magazines to be legal.
That mag looks like a Scherer, and I believe they have been in production since prior to 1994.
Glock mag with no ambi cut or LE markings? Pre ban.
Are you going to carry a 29 round mag concealed? No.
/Thread solved.
Speaking of dated mags, in light of this long silly conversation, I cannot imagine WHY the manufacturers won't simply stamp a "MFG date" on their stuff, and then stand behind it. That right there would have solved any problems.
Speaking of dated mags, in light of this long silly conversation, I cannot imagine WHY the manufacturers won't simply stamp a "MFG date" on their stuff, and then stand behind it. That right there would have solved any problems.
Compare that to S&W who (when at the time was owned by somebody else) tried to cut a secret deal with Clinton to screw gun owners over just to stay in business.
Some have never forgiven them for that.
Conviction requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt.I really don't think even the Mass AG office can sift through 480+ posts in the Glock pre ban mag FAQ in the Mass gun law sub forum, to figure out if a mag is legal or not.
Well, answer me this. If the authorities *think* you have a post ban mag, can/will they get you for it, even if it's not? Or will they always err on the side of caution and say, "we don't know, so you're good"?
My feeling, which may mean nothing, since I live in NH and don't worry about such nonsense, is that they will arrest/fine or whatever they do, now and worry about figuring it out later.