Huge ammo shipment at SL Gun Shop in Mason, NH 3p.m. March 22, 2013

[ProGun]

Exactly, then don't buy it. There is no such thing as gouging. Even if the prices are too high, people will either buy it, or they will take their business elsewhere. Like Walmart or another LGS with lower prices. I guess it's pretty simple.

If you see something here in the classifieds that is a $3500 Bushmaster AR, then don't buy it. If that guy sells that AR though for $3500, then I guess the price wasn't that high.

But see, there IS such a thing as price gouging. Depending on what is being sold, the buyer might NEED it to survive, i.e., bottled water in a hurricane zone. The buyer of the water is being gouged if it's several times the going rate for bottled water. Even if he can afford it, and is willing to pay the absurd price, he is being gouged if he is paying $10 for a bottle of water. Period.

The buyer of way overpriced ammo is also being gouged. Maybe he is just a sucker. He might be able to AFFORD it and WILLING to pay the insane price, but that doesn't make it any less a case of price-gouging. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

I'm just disagreeing with your point that whining and gouging are the same thing. Case in point: I think we're paying too much for gas right now. That's whining. Do I think we are being gouged? No. That said, there are plenty of cases of gouging on gas prices. Again, often around natural disasters.

 

[HTRN]

But see, there IS such a thing as price gouging. Depending on what is being sold, the buyer might NEED it to survive, i.e., bottled water in a hurricane zone. The buyer of the water is being gouged if it's several times the going rate for bottled water. Even if he can afford it, and is willing to pay the absurd price, he is being gouged if he is paying $10 for a bottle of water. Period.

The buyer of way overpriced ammo is also being gouged. Maybe he is just a sucker. He might be able to AFFORD it and WILLING to pay the insane price, but that doesn't make it any less a case of price-gouging. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

I'm just disagreeing with your point that whining and gouging are the same thing. Case in point: I think we're paying too much for gas right now. That's whining. Do I think we are being gouged? No. That said, there are plenty of cases of gouging on gas prices. Again, often around natural disasters.

How would you write the definition for "price gouging" if you worked for Webster's?

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[Quinn800x]

I just love it when red blooded libertarian capitalists who support a totally free market exercise their first amendment rights about that "evil" SL Gun Shop (you know the one a lot of you used to write good things about in the gun shop threads) is so unfair and price gouging. Well I'll show them you say, I'll use my 1st Amendment Right on Derek's forum (where we are all really guests) and share my "feelings" and outrage while I take a break from dusting my middle school soccer participation trophies.
I don't think SL could give a that's ass what you think. If somebody can sell something and command the price they want and someone else wants to pay that price...guess what? That's okay.

Talk about out yourself threads... express yourself yes, but guess what? Nobody cares.

Pretty sure I mentioned other reasons than pricing on why they suck...

 

[ProGun]

How would you write the definition for "price gouging" if you worked for Webster's?

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Something like this: "an amount charged, which grossly exceeds the average price available for these items and services in the same area"

This is why I don't pay "gouge" prices. I go elsewhere in the same area.

 

[jaypap]

I would have offered $100.00 just to see the look on a bigger Azzholes face.

 

[Quinn800x]

Something like this: "an amount charged, which grossly exceeds the average price available for these items and services in the same area"

This is why I don't pay "gouge" prices. I go elsewhere in the same area.

+1

 

[kurtb]

DHS must not know about it ..

 

[Heisenberg]

See if they price match with Wally World at $175 a pop

 

[ntomsw]

See if they price match with Wally World at $175 a pop

I go to Walmart and buy it for $175, and then sell it for $375.

 

[rkwjunior]

Who defines gouging? What defines gouging?

People whining that the price is too high for them to afford is not gouging.

Buy it or don't buy it. Otherwise shut up. FREE MARKET.

I'm sure you never Whinned about gas prices back in 06' 07'. Don't bitch when gas hits $4 and oil is still $100 a barrel.

I can't believe i'm actually explaining this.... Gouging is pricing an item way above retail when it doesn't have to be, (Taking advantage) Federal, and gunshops, did just fine when it was $160 for a can of xm855, does it have to be $260 or $350 a can???
It has nothing to do with affording it, its paying 100% markup for something you pay 100% less for 2 months ago, its called "principle". I would never pay 350 a can just on "principle" alone. I'll wait till they drop.

 

[ntomsw]

I have never whined about gas prices. They are what they are and that's not going to change.

 

[rkwjunior]

I have never whined about gas prices. They are what they are and that's not going to change.

Ya, Right!!! HAHAHA Everyone bitches about gas prices!! Your saying that for the sake of argument.

Have a Toyota Prius do you ???

 

[ntomsw]

Ya, Right!!! HAHAHA Everyone bitches about gas prices!! Your saying that for the sake of argument.

Have a Toyota Prius do you ???

What is bitching about gas prices going to do??? I am not 1 of those people that drives 3 towns over to save 10 cents on gas. I pay what it is and could give a shit less.

Do you know me? How can you say that's BS. I am telling you it's not. Is that hard to understand?

 

[Evadd]

They can do what they want and charge what they want.

You can also choose not to shop there if you want. It's not that hard.

I sold a 420 round ammo can of 5.56 the other day for $375.

If someone is willing to pay it, I guess it's not that much, is it???

Not to some, but many people don't care for those who take advantage of others. Justify it however you want, but that's what it is.

 

[ntomsw]

Not to some, but many people don't care for those who take advantage of others. Justify it however you want, but that's what it is.

How can someone take advantage of someone else, if they willingly pay for something? I am missing something here.

You are free to either buy it, or not to buy it.

 

[Evadd]

How can someone take advantage of someone else, if they willingly pay for something? I am missing something here.

You are free to either buy it, or not to buy it.

Just because someone is willing to do it doesn't mean they're not being taken advantage of. I understand that shop isn't forcing people to shop only there, but with the scarcity of the product, their customers are still being taken advantage of. I get that people are free to go where they want. I won't pay above what I feel something is worth, but IMO it's still a shitty practice.

If I was to use an analogy: you have a 15 mile walk home at 3am. You flag the only cab you see, and he says he'll charge $60, when the going rate is $20. Yes, you can afford it, and yes, you have an alternative (hoof it or hope to find another cab), but are any of those options reasonable? Can you honestly say that you're not being taken advantage of?


ETA: Gotten a bit off-topic; sorry.

 

[ntomsw]

Sounds good to me.

 

[Orion2k]

You know the frenzy is getting bad when stores don't bother putting on pricing stickers.

There should be a policy if there is no price tag on the item it's FREE. It aggravates me when I have to wait for a sales person or interrupt a conversation just to find out a price.

 

[rkwjunior]

How can someone take advantage of someone else, if they willingly pay for something? I am missing something here.

You are free to either buy it, or not to buy it.

Really??? NO, Really?? Is this for real??

just because someone buys it doesn't mean it's not "Taking advantage", it just means they don't care about being taken advantage of, or they are forced too, or their not aware of a "Butt reaming". If they don't have to or don't care and still pay, I consider them completely stupid.

If XM 855 was $350 a can 6 months ago or a year ago, i wouldn't feel bad about buying it for $350, but it wasn't, so i'm not dumb enough to be "taken Advantage" of.

 

[mark056]

Just because someone is willing to do it doesn't mean they're not being taken advantage of. I understand that shop isn't forcing people to shop only there, but with the scarcity of the product, their customers are still being taken advantage of. I get that people are free to go where they want. I won't pay above what I feel something is worth, but IMO it's still a shitty practice.

If I was to use an analogy: you have a 15 mile walk home at 3am. You flag the only cab you see, and he says he'll charge $60, when the going rate is $20. Yes, you can afford it, and yes, you have an alternative (hoof it or hope to find another cab), but are any of those options reasonable? Can you honestly say that you're not being taken advantage of?


ETA: Gotten a bit off-topic; sorry.

I get it. To each according to his need (a cheap ride home) from each according to his ability (the can driver has the means to take you there and maybe even should do it for free but in any event he should be fair...right)?

Hmm isn't that what Karl Marx said. I am really amazed at all the socialists we have here who complain when unfettered capitalism hits them in their wallet

Take your business elsewhere. Seems simple enough to me.

 

[rkwjunior]

Hmm isn't that what Karl Marx said. I am really amazed at all the socialists we have here who complain when unfettered capitalism hits them in their wallet QUOTE]

I never said they shouldn't be allowed to "price gouge" or "Take advantage" of.

I love how you act like you never bitched about overpriced merchandise that was never overpriced before.

No matter how you look at it, its Price gouging and Taking advantage of.

 

[HTRN]

If the product purchase is compulsory or under duress, I can see the concept of "gouging" but not without this important component.

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[xcom]

If I need a coke and It's 3 AM, I'm going ot go to the convience store and pay a premium. If I want to support a Mom & Pop, I know I will pay more than I would at a chain. If I need something, I'll pay the premium. If it's too high, I'll find competition selling for lower. Capitalisim my friends.

 

[JimB]

this is simple supply an demand, don't be p[art of the demand,
they whoever will discover that they can't find any dumbasses and

will lower the price. You do not have to have it... its simple...

 

[falcon123]

Price gouging myth explained

http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2006/06/walter-e-williams-explains-price-gouging-myth/

 

[rkwjunior]

If I need a coke and It's 3 AM, I'm going ot go to the convience store and pay a premium. If I want to support a Mom & Pop, I know I will pay more than I would at a chain. If I need something, I'll pay the premium. If it's too high, I'll find competition selling for lower. Capitalisim my friends.

So you've never complained about paying 5 bucks for a hot dog at Fenway park, and then paid 3 bucks for a pack of 12 at Shaws???

If someone says "capatalism" one more time......please.


I don't think anyone here is complaining about capatalism itself, like i said, they can do whatever they want, I could careless, i'll get it cheaper somewhere else. The argument here is "Gouging" no matter how you slice it, it's gouging.. admit it.

 

[ntomsw]

Capitalism.

 

[HKdrummer]

So you've never complained about paying 5 bucks for a hot dog at Fenway park, and then paid 3 bucks for a pack of 12 at Shaws???

If someone says "capatalism" one more time......please.


I don't think anyone here is complaining about capatalism itself, like i said, they can do whatever they want, I could careless, i'll get it cheaper somewhere else. The argument here is "Gouging" no matter how you slice it, it's gouging.. admit it.

No actually, I just don't buy it, and if I do, I know exactly why it's 5 bucks and dont give a shit.

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Really??? NO, Really?? Is this for real??

just because someone buys it doesn't mean it's not "Taking advantage", it just means they don't care about being taken advantage of, or they are forced too, or their not aware of a "Butt reaming". If they don't have to or don't care and still pay, I consider them completely stupid.

If XM 855 was $350 a can 6 months ago or a year ago, i wouldn't feel bad about buying it for $350, but it wasn't, so i'm not dumb enough to be "taken Advantage" of.

I know I say this a lot here on NES lately, but they keep getting beat out.......

This is the dumbest thing I've read on the internet

 

[rkwjunior]

Price gouging myth explained

http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2006/06/walter-e-williams-explains-price-gouging-myth/

That article is as retarted as the author writing it. In every example he gives, Inflation is entered into the equation.

Xm855 is not effected by inflation, it was affected by hysteria.. $160 to $350 in a matter of 2 months or less is NOT inflation, Gouging!!!

It's not that hard to understand!!!

 

[rkwjunior]

No actually, I just don't buy it, and if I do, I know exactly why it's 5 bucks and dont give a shit.

I don't give a shit either, I've bought many Fenway Franks, but i'm not blind to the fact that it's gouging.