amm5061
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According to the guidance letter, this extends to all semi-automatic firearms, including handguns and shotguns.
What the actual ****???
What the actual ****???
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Healey "closing the loophole" letter to gun dealers
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Holy shit. This seems to outlaw semiauto pistols.
A weapon is a Copy or Duplicate and is therefore a prohibited Assault weapon if it meets one orboth of the following tests and is 1) a semiautomatic rifle or handgun that was manufactured orsubsequently configured with an ability to accept a detachable magazine, or 2) a semiautomaticshotgun.31. Similarity Test: A weapon is a Copy or Duplicate if its internal functional components aresubstantially similar in construction and configuration to those of an EnumeratedWeapon. Under this test, a weapon is a Copy or Duplicate, for example, if the operatingsystem and firing mechanism of the weapon are based on or otherwise substantiallysimilar to one of the Enumerated Weapons.3 A weapon is not a Copy or Duplicate under this Guidance if it meets one or more of the exceptions ((i)-(vii))contained in the statutory definition of Assault weapon in Section 121.42. Interchangeability Test: A weapon is a Copy or Duplicate if it has a receiver that is thesame as or interchangeable with the receiver of an Enumerated Weapon. A receiver willbe treated as the same as or interchangeable with the receiver on an Enumerated Weaponif it includes or accepts two or more operating components that are the same as orinterchangeable with those of an Enumerated Weapon. Such operating components mayinclude, but are not limited to: 1) the trigger assembly; 2) the bolt carrier or bolt carriergroup; 3) the charging handle; 4) the extractor or extractor assembly; or 5) the magazineport.If a weapon meets one of the above tests, it is a Copy or Duplicate (and therefore a prohibitedAssault weapon), even if it is marketed as “state compliant” or “Massachusetts compliant.”The fact that a weapon is or has been marketed by the manufacturer on the basis that it is thesame as or substantially similar to one or more Enumerated Weapons will be relevant toidentifying whether the weapon is a Copy or Duplicate (and therefore a prohibited Assaultweapon) under the applicable test(s).
A weapon is a Copy or Duplicate and is therefore a prohibited Assault weapon if it meets one orboth of the following tests and is 1) a semiautomatic rifle or handgun that was manufactured orsubsequently configured with an ability to accept a detachable magazine, or 2) a semiautomaticshotgun.31. Similarity Test: A weapon is a Copy or Duplicate if its internal functional components aresubstantially similar in construction and configuration to those of an EnumeratedWeapon. Under this test, a weapon is a Copy or Duplicate, for example, if the operatingsystem and firing mechanism of the weapon are based on or otherwise substantiallysimilar to one of the Enumerated Weapons.3 A weapon is not a Copy or Duplicate under this Guidance if it meets one or more of the exceptions ((i)-(vii))contained in the statutory definition of Assault weapon in Section 121.42. Interchangeability Test: A weapon is a Copy or Duplicate if it has a receiver that is thesame as or interchangeable with the receiver of an Enumerated Weapon. A receiver willbe treated as the same as or interchangeable with the receiver on an Enumerated Weaponif it includes or accepts two or more operating components that are the same as orinterchangeable with those of an Enumerated Weapon. Such operating components mayinclude, but are not limited to: 1) the trigger assembly; 2) the bolt carrier or bolt carriergroup; 3) the charging handle; 4) the extractor or extractor assembly; or 5) the magazineport.If a weapon meets one of the above tests, it is a Copy or Duplicate (and therefore a prohibitedAssault weapon), even if it is marketed as “state compliant” or “Massachusetts compliant.”The fact that a weapon is or has been marketed by the manufacturer on the basis that it is thesame as or substantially similar to one or more Enumerated Weapons will be relevant toidentifying whether the weapon is a Copy or Duplicate (and therefore a prohibited Assaultweapon) under the applicable test(s).
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JUST DO IT !
This whole fu(king thread is like a bunch of people arguing about where to put the deck chairs on the up ended Titanic.
People should be hanging WANTED POSTERS of the AG and ever member of the Ma legislature on every tree, lamp post and bulletin board in the state and Boston should be grid locked with 50,000 people open carrying in protest.
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I just called. Didn't have to wait very long to talk to an aid. He said he would pass that concern along...Now I feel like my opinion matters...NOT...
hpm
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Well you can't buy or carry concealed a pistol with an FID card.
xero2099
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i have a lever gun what about those?
CWulf
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Just got an email from Carl at Four Seasons...
"It is our understanding that today is the last day that we can sell S&W Sport II and Ruger AR-556 rifles in MA.
We have both in stock.
Four Seasons"
Last time I was in there they had some Stag's and Windhams.. do those not count? What about the ones they are selling on consignment?
"It is our understanding that today is the last day that we can sell S&W Sport II and Ruger AR-556 rifles in MA.
We have both in stock.
Four Seasons"
Last time I was in there they had some Stag's and Windhams.. do those not count? What about the ones they are selling on consignment?
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Read the last sentence of the Guidance Letter. That's all you need to know; the standard will be changed to suit the AGO's needs.
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I wonder if they will go the route of the Ammo sellers in threating parts coming in
Rockrivr1
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Haven't had a chance to read every comment but has anyone from the Esteemed Comms2A or GOAL commented yet on this?
**** the governors office. I just called the ag's office. Little puke told me this has no bearing on private sales.
What do expect GOAL to do about this? Do you expect Healey to care about what GOAL has to say about this?
GOAL will have a statement "soon".
if that revolver is a "clone" of a "weapon of war to hunt people" then it's probably illegal as well.
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It turns out that 2a is just a loophole that needs to be closed
Unless I read things too quickly, lowers are still good?
Got a couple emails from various places.
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As of now it does not appear to be retroactive for individuals (for everyone saying anyone with an AR since 1998 is a felon). I read that as if you have an FA10 within the window, you are okay (for now).
The Guidance will not be applied to future possession, ownership or transfer of Assault weapons
by dealers, provided that the dealer has written evidence that the weapons were transferred to the
dealer in the Commonwealth prior to July 20, 2016, and provided further that a transfer made
after July 20, 2016, if any, is made to persons or businesses in states where such weapons are
legal.
Application of this Enforcement Notice (individual gun owners):
The Guidance will not be applied to possession, ownership or transfer of an Assault weapon
obtained prior to July 20, 2016.
The AGO reserves the right to alter or amend this guidance.
The Guidance will not be applied to future possession, ownership or transfer of Assault weapons
by dealers, provided that the dealer has written evidence that the weapons were transferred to the
dealer in the Commonwealth prior to July 20, 2016, and provided further that a transfer made
after July 20, 2016, if any, is made to persons or businesses in states where such weapons are
legal.
Application of this Enforcement Notice (individual gun owners):
The Guidance will not be applied to possession, ownership or transfer of an Assault weapon
obtained prior to July 20, 2016.
The AGO reserves the right to alter or amend this guidance.
Jsfitzgerald85
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Can we get a legal professional to comment on whether or not all semi auto pistols are also now considered assault weapons?
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Jconnor93
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Is this even legal?
I think that GOAL could speak not so much to the shit brain AG but to all gun owners in this state and anyone who cares. We should fight and we should get this shit brain out of the office. If we do this, if we stand together and fight instead of blowing a rape whistle, some things will change.
I'm actually glad for this. So we are all felons, comrades, if we have committed 100s of well documented felonies (just look at the shoot pictures) then what does it matter anymore?
If we're all felons we're not required to register our firearms because it violates our 5th amendment rights according to Haynes vs. US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haynes_v._United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haynes_v._United_States
amm5061
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I'm just wondering when are we gonna meet at the state house so I can take that day off.
This.
Goliathan
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Do I need to register my empty lower by tonight or what?
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