I think people/companies are still shell shocked and trying to grasp what this all means.
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Healey "closing the loophole" letter to gun dealers
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I think people/companies are still shell shocked and trying to grasp what this all means.
This is bad juju on so many levels. Obviously for 2A rights but it just makes me shudder to think of all the AGs in the country flipping through all kinds of statutes to see what vague language they can "interpret" to suit their personal/party agenda on a whim like this.
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F sh!t and Wesson then
like hanging around and telling folks they're already defeated helps.
Just got off the phone with Bruce Tarr's assistant. According to him: they were blindsided by her and what she did is completely unconstitutional. If she wanted to amend it that's one thing but she didn't do it how she should have. He said they're going to gather all the facts and then issue a statement challenging her.
Yes, but that only applies to muskets not black killy objects. These traitors really need to suffer some consequences for their treasonous acts.
They should be ejected from office at the very least.
They should be ejected from office at the very least.
It is probably the equivalent to pissing into the wind, but at least it made me feel a little better. Here is my response to the governor's office after they thanked me for yesterday's email.
Dear Governor Baker & Staff,
Thank you for acknowledging my original letter. Unfortunately I have seen your response to the AG's blatant over reach (both in the paper this morning and on the radio this afternoon), and I am NOT satisfied with the stance you have taken.
I am asking you to seriously reconsider your response to the Attorney General's dangerous actions.
Sincerely,
[redacted]
Thank you for acknowledging my original letter. Unfortunately I have seen your response to the AG's blatant over reach (both in the paper this morning and on the radio this afternoon), and I am NOT satisfied with the stance you have taken.
- She is reinterpreting the established law in a a fashion that violates both the state and federal constitution.
- She is over reaching the powers and responsibilities of her office.
- Through her actions she is obviating the legislature, usurping their authority on the issue.
- The existing law is clear and it's interpretation has been agreed upon by all parties for many years (since 1994 federally and since 1998 in MA). Her "revised" interpretation is in violation of 18 and 22 years of precedent.
- She explicitly declared that all gun owners in the state are currently committing felonies, and that we are not being brought up on charges en-mass on the basis of her "prosecutorial discretion". She also mad a point of the fact that she reserves the right to change her stance on this fact (or any part of the directive for that matter) in the future.
I am asking you to seriously reconsider your response to the Attorney General's dangerous actions.
Sincerely,
[redacted]
Not to take anything away from him, but he is the minority leader in a state where the minority is tiny, and he will need to convince a lot of Democrats to join him in this. While they may not like what she did generally, she accomplished their goals where they could not. Now they got their total gun ban, and didn't even have to work for it. Perfect!
FWIW, I support Tarr, and I appreciate his efforts. He has his work cut out for him.
Whutmeworry
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Baker only defeated Coakley by 40,000 votes. If he hears from even half that many pissed off gun owners, it might give him pause. Even if not, it's fun just to tell his aides he screwed himself for the '18 election.
I don't want to derail the thread, but Coakley was a giant turd of a candidate. If the 'Republicans' were able to put up a decent centrist candidate, which they aren't, that person may have crushed Coakley. FFS, this guy is more liberal than many liberals. OMG this state is so effed.
Just once more in my life I would like to vote for someone I respect and agree with, and have them win and fight the good fight. Sigh.
amm5061
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I'm down by the statehouse now. Maybe 30-40 people here total and I just had 3-4 staties pass me on the sidewalk heading there. Also seems to be a news crew or two. One looks like telemundo, can't tell who the other is.
tell 'em to come back saturday too....and the again next saturday, and the one after that, and.....
MachineHead
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It'd be a great thing if they shot this directive down and repealed the AWB seeing as how even she admits that it was all cosmetic.
Unlikely, but at least her words are there to prove the AWB law does nothing.
I haven't seen anything that clearly says it's ok to sell one of the evil rifles that was possessed before the 7/20 date to another MA resident.
I sent this letter to the Herald, Globe, Telegram & Gazette, Springfield Republican, Lowell Sun, and Eagle Tribune today. We'll see if they have the guts to publish it.
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An open letter to Attorney General Maura Healey and her fellow anti-gun progressives:
I see that you are once again infringing on the civil rights of gun owners. Our custom of keeping and bearing arms is foreign to you, so we make convenient scapegoats for the moral dystopia of your progressive society.
Your welfare state has brought us a cycle of dependency that dissolves inner city families and leaves young men, many of them fathers, to seek means and meaning in gangs and their violence. Your anti-American revisionist history has undermined our patriotism and national identity, paralyzing us with pacifism in the face of enemies who terrorize us at home and abroad. Your Godless society has given us a proliferation of self-absorbed psychopaths who, devoid of morality and loving neither God nor neighbor, slaughter those whose happiness, success, or innocence they lack.
Your answer in every case, instead of the introspection that would reveal the root of these evils and the rot at the core of your ideology, is to scapegoat us law-abiding gun owners for crimes we did not commit. Just as Nero and Diocletian blamed Christians for the crumbling of the Roman Empire; just as the Klan faulted emancipated slaves for the economic malaise of the former Confederacy; just as the Nazis promoted anti-Semitism to escape Germany’s interbellum shortcomings; so you now persecute gun owners for the moral deficiencies of your progressive state.
Count yourselves among history’s greatest bigots - those who, to shirk their own failings, stoked fear and hatred of others whose customs, color, or creed differed from their own.
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An open letter to Attorney General Maura Healey and her fellow anti-gun progressives:
I see that you are once again infringing on the civil rights of gun owners. Our custom of keeping and bearing arms is foreign to you, so we make convenient scapegoats for the moral dystopia of your progressive society.
Your welfare state has brought us a cycle of dependency that dissolves inner city families and leaves young men, many of them fathers, to seek means and meaning in gangs and their violence. Your anti-American revisionist history has undermined our patriotism and national identity, paralyzing us with pacifism in the face of enemies who terrorize us at home and abroad. Your Godless society has given us a proliferation of self-absorbed psychopaths who, devoid of morality and loving neither God nor neighbor, slaughter those whose happiness, success, or innocence they lack.
Your answer in every case, instead of the introspection that would reveal the root of these evils and the rot at the core of your ideology, is to scapegoat us law-abiding gun owners for crimes we did not commit. Just as Nero and Diocletian blamed Christians for the crumbling of the Roman Empire; just as the Klan faulted emancipated slaves for the economic malaise of the former Confederacy; just as the Nazis promoted anti-Semitism to escape Germany’s interbellum shortcomings; so you now persecute gun owners for the moral deficiencies of your progressive state.
Count yourselves among history’s greatest bigots - those who, to shirk their own failings, stoked fear and hatred of others whose customs, color, or creed differed from their own.
xero2099
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i wonder if she keeps this up for a few months then backs off but during that time alot of gun shops close, and that was her ultimate goal
The problem is. You're in the wrong system. The "system" in MA is working perfectly. It's mostly liberal douchebag populace thinks that THIS IS fixing the problem. That is the problem. If you have a democratic community of 1000 people. 990 want one thing and 10 want the other thing. Voting will NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER get the 10 people what they want. Ever! That is where you all are right now. Granted her edict is clearly an illegal overreach. Absolutely no doubt about it. But if it were put to a vote today. You would loose an in crushing landslide. And there is absolutely no doubt about that either.
Your options are as follows:
1-Riot in the streets. Literally burn the system down. While accepting the probably thousands of lives lost in the process. (tried and true and created this country)
2-Bitch and moan to pols who DGAF and then ultimately submit to your masters. (what most of you will do)
3-Get the **** out of dodge and stop financing their shit. (what the smart ones already did, some small few may follow after this)
Ya I know, family, job etc... Whatever. If after looking at the big picture you still chose to raise you kids in that environment, because it is easier than moving. Well you're probably where you belong already. Just stick out your arm. Get your tattoo, and wait for a gov representative to come offer you a meal and a hot shower.
Many people will simply buy what they can buy. Many gun shops are side businesses, so their overhead isn't incredibly high. Perhaps I am off-base, but given the high sales of the past few years, and the other factors, I would think a lot of shops can weather a drought.
Boris
Son of Kalashnikov
this, he needs to hear that we do not forget and this is his last term, so he can get ready to run in NH like Brown did.
Here's the huge faggot that represents me
http://www.jamieeldridge.com/
and my rep
https://jenbenson.org/
Likely a taco eater
This state needs an enema
http://www.jamieeldridge.com/
and my rep
https://jenbenson.org/
Likely a taco eater
This state needs an enema
Stopped in at FSG and they will not sell any semi-automatic magazine fed rifle without further clarification from Maura. To be fair I did not ask about rimfire. I can not blame them after rereading the letter on the Website again she could trip them up on the Ranch Rifle I was asking about.
That isn't Maura's house burning in Charlestown, is it?
OK, this is a huge stretch but maybe there is a long term silver lining for you MA folks.
If it is eventually decided that your AG's interpretation of the law is valid because the statute is not clear enough couldn't it then be argued that the whole statute is unconstitutional because it is too vague and leaves the door open to the restriction of 2A rights well beyond what may be considered "reasonable" and is therefore in violation of the 2nd amendment?
As Dressed to Kill quoted, Heller says that there is a heavy burden on the govt to justify a restriction to 2A and I don't think banning all semi-auto guns would hold up to that at all. Yeah, I know it's a stretch but it makes some logical sense. The only way that is ever going to happen though is for Hitlery to lose so the SCOTUS isn't stacked with moonbats.
CT's ban on ARs was challenged to the SCOTUS and was just denied cert while they are at 4 libs and 4 conservatives and even though the AR is the most popular gun in America and passes the commonly owned test. That said, banning the AR is a lot less restrictive than MA trying to ban all semi-autos so maybe they would hear a challenge to the MA statute.
If it is eventually decided that your AG's interpretation of the law is valid because the statute is not clear enough couldn't it then be argued that the whole statute is unconstitutional because it is too vague and leaves the door open to the restriction of 2A rights well beyond what may be considered "reasonable" and is therefore in violation of the 2nd amendment?
As Dressed to Kill quoted, Heller says that there is a heavy burden on the govt to justify a restriction to 2A and I don't think banning all semi-auto guns would hold up to that at all. Yeah, I know it's a stretch but it makes some logical sense. The only way that is ever going to happen though is for Hitlery to lose so the SCOTUS isn't stacked with moonbats.
CT's ban on ARs was challenged to the SCOTUS and was just denied cert while they are at 4 libs and 4 conservatives and even though the AR is the most popular gun in America and passes the commonly owned test. That said, banning the AR is a lot less restrictive than MA trying to ban all semi-autos so maybe they would hear a challenge to the MA statute.
71montess
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This is just a short term gun grab to give Deleo time to craft a legislative gun grab. Mark my words.
Not for nothing - but that problem you mentioned is exactly why there is a second amendment.
Jefferson said that the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants - and if I remember correctly he said that revolution should be a frequent thing when the government got out of control.
I don't think the founders deluded themselves into thinking that even the system of government they devised was incorruptible. They just tried to put something together that would stave off the corruption.
When that inevitable corruption and tyranny occurred again - people were supposed to use those firearms and take out the corrupted government if it refused to take itself out.
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I've been law abiding my whole life. Hell, I won't even jaywalk on the street. I always condemned people who even walked close to the line of breaking the law.
This situation has completely changed my views. This isn't what my father came to this country for. National guard locking us in our homes as they chased one teenage fugitive? A government official getting away with breaking a law that would have anyone else indicted? Now a clueless AG uneducated in the subject waving her wand and prohibiting the sale of a regulated consumer product without any process?
I don't know about most of you but I will NOT be turning in any firearm if asked. No, I'm not some bum with no future and nothing to lose, I have much to lose. It's not even about this being a STEP to something worse that we must stop. This is that "something worse". F*ck them, this garbage should be ignored by all of us, very simple solution, no sleep lost.
This situation has completely changed my views. This isn't what my father came to this country for. National guard locking us in our homes as they chased one teenage fugitive? A government official getting away with breaking a law that would have anyone else indicted? Now a clueless AG uneducated in the subject waving her wand and prohibiting the sale of a regulated consumer product without any process?
I don't know about most of you but I will NOT be turning in any firearm if asked. No, I'm not some bum with no future and nothing to lose, I have much to lose. It's not even about this being a STEP to something worse that we must stop. This is that "something worse". F*ck them, this garbage should be ignored by all of us, very simple solution, no sleep lost.
Horrible
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Finally made Breitbart...
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...r-15s-following-mass-ags-assault-weapons-ban/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...r-15s-following-mass-ags-assault-weapons-ban/
The people who should be very worried about this are the other AWB states. You can guarantee the other AGs in those states are salivating at the idea of cloning this.
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