This week cannot get over fast enough. The silence in deafening. More calls...more emails.
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If you have already called, don't call again. We got our point across apparently... See the OP.
Thanks for the tip. I didn't see the latest. I'll sit tight until the flag goes up again.
When i called i gave my name and town and phone number if they wanted it.
I AGREE, its time to sit back. Continuous calling may aggrevate some,
up to a point its good, my concern is that it could work in reverse. I think for the moment
casinos seem to be the how topic.
I AGREE, its time to sit back. Continuous calling may aggrevate some,
up to a point its good, my concern is that it could work in reverse. I think for the moment
casinos seem to be the how topic.
Mass. Gov. blames gun lobby for slowing bill
July 26, 2010
BOSTON --Gov. Deval Patrick says his bill to help control illegal handguns has been hurt by gun lobbyists and may not even get debated.
Patrick told reporters Monday that he believes members of the House are "feeling the pressure from the gun lobby" to oppose a bill that would restrict licensed gun owners to purchasing one firearm a month and strengthen the penalties against illegal possessors of guns.
House Speaker Robert DeLeo had assured Patrick the measure would come up for a vote, but with the legislative session winding down, that prospect is looking unlikely.
The bill is designed clamp down on so-called "straw purchasers" who buy guns legally and then resell them to convicted felons and others barred from owning guns.
Opponents say the state should enforce its already-strict gun laws, not add more.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma...26/mass_gov_blames_gun_lobby_for_slowing_bill
July 26, 2010
BOSTON --Gov. Deval Patrick says his bill to help control illegal handguns has been hurt by gun lobbyists and may not even get debated.
Patrick told reporters Monday that he believes members of the House are "feeling the pressure from the gun lobby" to oppose a bill that would restrict licensed gun owners to purchasing one firearm a month and strengthen the penalties against illegal possessors of guns.
House Speaker Robert DeLeo had assured Patrick the measure would come up for a vote, but with the legislative session winding down, that prospect is looking unlikely.
The bill is designed clamp down on so-called "straw purchasers" who buy guns legally and then resell them to convicted felons and others barred from owning guns.
Opponents say the state should enforce its already-strict gun laws, not add more.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma...26/mass_gov_blames_gun_lobby_for_slowing_bill
are you asking us to stop posting here???? and why.
G
GOAL C.M.
Everyone, we called a cease fire on contacting the legislators and committee members last week. If and when we need to crank it up again we will post it up here, thank you all for the hard work and vigilance with this issue.
TENTATIVE AGREEMENT ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE BILL
By Jim O’Sullivan
STATE HOUSE NEWS SERVICE
STATE HOUSE, BOSTON, JULY 29, 2010….....House and Senate negotiators reached a deal late Thursday on legislation restricting the public life of criminal offense records and striking most of the Senate’s efforts to provide reduced sentences for non-violent offenders, according to sources familiar with the compromise.
The Senate backed off its push to make non-violent state prison convicts eligible for parole after serving two-thirds of their sentences, while the House relented in allowing non-violent house of correction inmates parole after two-thirds of their sentences, the sources said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
The conference committee package, which was not made public because legislative leaders were still reviewing it, is one of several bills Gov. Deval Patrick said he wanted finished before he would consent to allowing a non-resort slot machine facility, a key point of contention in Beacon Hill’s most closely watched debate. A second accord, on legislation regulating wind energy facilities siting, was also headed toward a potential Friday vote.
>snip<
During his remarks, Patrick all but conceded that his proposal to limit gun purchases to one per month – a move aimed at curbing “straw purchases” that are funneled to the street illegally and are used in violent crime – was dead for the session. Noting that the bill would require a debate, he said too little time remained to tackle it this week.
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7/29/2010
By Jim O’Sullivan
STATE HOUSE NEWS SERVICE
STATE HOUSE, BOSTON, JULY 29, 2010….....House and Senate negotiators reached a deal late Thursday on legislation restricting the public life of criminal offense records and striking most of the Senate’s efforts to provide reduced sentences for non-violent offenders, according to sources familiar with the compromise.
The Senate backed off its push to make non-violent state prison convicts eligible for parole after serving two-thirds of their sentences, while the House relented in allowing non-violent house of correction inmates parole after two-thirds of their sentences, the sources said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
The conference committee package, which was not made public because legislative leaders were still reviewing it, is one of several bills Gov. Deval Patrick said he wanted finished before he would consent to allowing a non-resort slot machine facility, a key point of contention in Beacon Hill’s most closely watched debate. A second accord, on legislation regulating wind energy facilities siting, was also headed toward a potential Friday vote.
>snip<
During his remarks, Patrick all but conceded that his proposal to limit gun purchases to one per month – a move aimed at curbing “straw purchases” that are funneled to the street illegally and are used in violent crime – was dead for the session. Noting that the bill would require a debate, he said too little time remained to tackle it this week.
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7/29/2010
Watch out for tomorrow afternoon/evening!!
MetalgodZ
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I'll literally be checking this page, GOAL's page, and my email hourly.
There's got to be an easier way.
![[hmmm]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/009.gif "Hmm [hmmm]")
This
Actually at this point, if it happens, i think the deal would be done before we even hear about it.
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Hate to be a downer, but based on the Globe article that I quoted earlier it may already be a done deal. Slot machines in return for Gov Patrick's four pet bills, one of which was H.4102. The machine at work.
I REALLY hope I'm wrong.....
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I went to the sox game (they lost, but just barely and I got a run and a half from my yankee fan buddy so he's buying the beers.) I'm drinking till they kick me out. Does that count as preparation?
(Anyone in the area, swing by bleacher bar and help me run up his tab.)
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it was my understanding that they agreed on the slots to give him time to work on the other bills, not that they were guaranteed to get done. i could be wrong
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As always, I hope you're right and I'm wrong. That said I think the session closes tomorrow (tonight?) at midnight, so that's not a whole lot of time left to work on anything. In any case there's not much we can do now but watch and remember in November. (And maybe load mags, but I think most of us already have a few dozen ready to take to the range for practice...) Those of us who sent letters and made phone calls, THANK YOU for being good Americans.
That is what i was saying above. They could agree on back door bs and get this done without our even knowing about it.
How can you stop something like that? You can't. We get shafted every single time. In another thread around here i was saying how this kind of crap should be illegal, and it should. This is no longer about "we the people" we the people have no say in the end. They throw in a piece here a bone there and the bill is no longer what the people wanted. You should not vote on something you know is wrong just so you can get something else through. You should not allow someone else to give a group of people the shaft because it's not YOUR people and YOUR people will get xyz if you let it happen. It's fing wrong.
This is why the system is broken. They are letting things slip through that nobody wants but the s***heads doing the back door deals. *We the people don't want it* if we did it would not need to be slipped in to anything. Years and Years of these back door deals and things being added that nobody really wants is doing it's own little part in taking the US down. Making us broke because we have to spend money on this back door bs nobody wants or needs.
We need to get rid of them all and when someone wants to put a bill through it needs X amount of names from a petition to get on a ballet. Say once or twice a year the ballets that have enough names get voted on by *We the people*, Majority wins. No more back door deals. No more adding on. We get to decide. Cut out the middle man making deals for himself. Nice Dream huh?
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It is... I'm not sure that I agree 100% with it, but the fact that you and other folks here on NES and other places on the web and in meatspace are thinking about ways to make things better keeps me from just giving up and conceeding the loss. Maybe it's naive (OK, it's ~probably~ naive,) but I believe that regular guys can still be heard and listened to one way or another.
Now, does anyone know why I can't buy a beer after 2:00 in MA? Lame...
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Palladin
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Oh yeah, "one gun a month" would have definitely stopped this::
DA: Gangbanger killed teen
Suspect has rap sheet dating back to ’02
By O’Ryan Johnson**| **Saturday, July 31, 2010**|**http://www.bostonherald.com**|**Local Coverage
Photo by Matthew Healey
An “H-Block” gangbanger whose rap sheet began when he was 12 is accused of blasting an eighth-grade honor roll student to death in a gang beef that did not involve the slain youth.
Timothy “Toolman” Hearns, 20, pleaded not guilty at his arraignment on charges of murder, and assault with intent to commit murder in the death of Jaewon Martin, 14, a student at Timilty Middle School.
Hearns is also accused of shooting and injuring a 15-year-old boy who stood beside Martin on a basketball court at Bromley-Heath Housing Development on May 8. Prosecutors said Hearns is a member of H-Block, a Roxbury gang based on Humboldt Avenue, which has a long-standing feud with Heath Street.
Defense lawyer David Beck said his client is innocent, arguing Hearns should be released since prosecutors have not released any evidence linking him to the shooting.
“Apparently the new policy of the Suffolk district attorney is to treat the defense like mushrooms, keep us in the dark and feed us (expletive),” Beck said.
Prosecutors said the evidence is sealed in a grand jury. Hearns opened fire with a revolver, striking Martin and his friend each twice, prosecutors said. He fled, but the arrest warrant stated that Hearns was implicated by witnesses, as well as surveillance evidence.
At the time of the killing, Hearns was on probation for shooting a man in the ankle at nearly the same spot two years earlier, and for distributing cocaine, court records show. Hearns was arrested yesterday morning by members of the Boston Police Department’s Fugitive Apprehension Unit.
“As prosecutors, we know every life has meaning, but Jaewon’s also had great promise,” Suffolk District Attorney Daniel F. Conley said. “The promise of this young life was ended by the utter irrationality of a man with a gun and no regard for who it killed ... Jaewon was shot dead not because of who he was or what he did, but because of where he happened to be.”
Hearns’ criminal record begins in 2002, when he was charged with disturbing a school assembly, resisting arrest, and threats - charges that were continued without a finding. Two months later, he was charged with assault and battery and served time in a Department of Youth Services lockup. He was next arrested for receiving stolen property in June 2005, which was dismissed. In November 2005, he was arrested for distribution of cocaine and returned to DYS.
In February 2008, he was arrested and pleaded guilty to selling crack. In probation paperwork he wrote that he tried to swallow the crack, but police got to him first. While he was on pretrial probation for that drug charge, Hearns and three other H-Block gang members pleaded guilty to shooting a man in the ankle in May 2008 as the man walked to a liquor store, about 300 yards from where Martin was shot.
Article URL: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1271311
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DA: Gangbanger killed teen
Suspect has rap sheet dating back to ’02
By O’Ryan Johnson**| **Saturday, July 31, 2010**|**http://www.bostonherald.com**|**Local Coverage
Photo by Matthew Healey
An “H-Block” gangbanger whose rap sheet began when he was 12 is accused of blasting an eighth-grade honor roll student to death in a gang beef that did not involve the slain youth.
Timothy “Toolman” Hearns, 20, pleaded not guilty at his arraignment on charges of murder, and assault with intent to commit murder in the death of Jaewon Martin, 14, a student at Timilty Middle School.
Hearns is also accused of shooting and injuring a 15-year-old boy who stood beside Martin on a basketball court at Bromley-Heath Housing Development on May 8. Prosecutors said Hearns is a member of H-Block, a Roxbury gang based on Humboldt Avenue, which has a long-standing feud with Heath Street.
Defense lawyer David Beck said his client is innocent, arguing Hearns should be released since prosecutors have not released any evidence linking him to the shooting.
“Apparently the new policy of the Suffolk district attorney is to treat the defense like mushrooms, keep us in the dark and feed us (expletive),” Beck said.
Prosecutors said the evidence is sealed in a grand jury. Hearns opened fire with a revolver, striking Martin and his friend each twice, prosecutors said. He fled, but the arrest warrant stated that Hearns was implicated by witnesses, as well as surveillance evidence.
At the time of the killing, Hearns was on probation for shooting a man in the ankle at nearly the same spot two years earlier, and for distributing cocaine, court records show. Hearns was arrested yesterday morning by members of the Boston Police Department’s Fugitive Apprehension Unit.
“As prosecutors, we know every life has meaning, but Jaewon’s also had great promise,” Suffolk District Attorney Daniel F. Conley said. “The promise of this young life was ended by the utter irrationality of a man with a gun and no regard for who it killed ... Jaewon was shot dead not because of who he was or what he did, but because of where he happened to be.”
Hearns’ criminal record begins in 2002, when he was charged with disturbing a school assembly, resisting arrest, and threats - charges that were continued without a finding. Two months later, he was charged with assault and battery and served time in a Department of Youth Services lockup. He was next arrested for receiving stolen property in June 2005, which was dismissed. In November 2005, he was arrested for distribution of cocaine and returned to DYS.
In February 2008, he was arrested and pleaded guilty to selling crack. In probation paperwork he wrote that he tried to swallow the crack, but police got to him first. While he was on pretrial probation for that drug charge, Hearns and three other H-Block gang members pleaded guilty to shooting a man in the ankle in May 2008 as the man walked to a liquor store, about 300 yards from where Martin was shot.
Article URL: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1271311
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Dorchester man charged with gunning down 14-year-old
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Palladin, please refrain from using facts and rational thought when we are discussing politics in MA. You should know better than that. Thank you.
Horrible
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What about all the other gun control laws that are already on the books? They didn't stop this either. Why do these morons think that MORE laws are going to work when the twisted web of laws currently on the books don't?!?!
Morons.
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