AFVet
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True,, i'm already worried about Red Flag because i have seen how quickly people throw restaining orders around.. and red flags don't need any proof at all
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Gun Confiscation Coming in Virginia
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chris_1001
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it’s bad. no one ever told me why I got fired. 2.5 years there and all but the engineering manager, my old boss was a gun guy and I took him to a Harvard sportsman’s club idpa practice. he won’t talk to me now, (prob does not want to get into a suit).
as I said in that thread, STFU about your Hobbies
I was told by an old timer a long, long time ago.
"Politicians went from wanting to serve the people to wanting to be served by the people" or words to that effect.
"Politicians went from wanting to serve the people to wanting to be served by the people" or words to that effect.
jct61765
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They know it too!
slipknot
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It's all about control
You could say it's about freedom too
They have the money and the power, but they don't have the guns. Don't give up your rights.
They are tyrants and should be treated as tyrants period
We are all sick of the circlejerk
June4th
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Linsky referring him and his cohorts as ‘rulers’ was not slip of the tongue. They truly believe it. If there comes the next revolution in my life time, the abject horror on these ‘rulers’ faces will be better than porn.
minininjer
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Gun control bills coming up on Mon Jan 13 in the Senate Judiciary:S.B. 12 - Patron: Saslaw (Universal Background Checks)
S.B. 22 - Patron: Saslaw (One handgun a month)
S.B. 35 - Patron: Surovell (bans guns for parades, marches, etc.)
S.B. 69 - Patron: Locke (One handgun a month)
S.B. 70 - Patron: Lucas (Universal Background Checks)
S.B. 240 - Patron: Barker (Red Flag law)
S.B. 450 - Patron: Edwards (bans guns at Board of Supervisor meetings or City Council meetings)
S.B. 505 - Patron: Edwards (Bans guns in local government buildings)
S.B. 543 - Patron: Edwards (Closes non-existent "Gun show loophole")
S.B. 615 - Patron: Deeds (bans guns in local government buildings and in parks)
For details on those proposed bills: Bill Tracking 2020 Session
deerdad
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They MUST know the rally/protest that's planned. You would think anyone of the so called politicians would stop for a minute and think, "You know, this might not be good for myself or my familys safety if this is pushed through."
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When was the last time any politician was held accountable in that manner?
namedpipes
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Sooner or later, some disgruntled liberal is going to decide it's time to run a false flag op making it appear that a "Trumpette" tries to do so.
While the Trumpettes, by and large, keep going to work because we have mortgages to pay.
My House Was Raided Over A .22LR Lever Action Rifle
On Thursday evening, I was just finishing up dinner with my two oldest kids. My wife was feeling unwell and feeding our four-week old baby in bed. I had just gotten the icecream out for the kids when the doorbell rang.
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oldguy68
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It's not about guns, it's about resistance and control..
The left hates the strong, intellegent, free thinkers. Those that can take care of themselves, that will not stand for injustice and will accept nothing less than controlling their own destiny!
They prey on the weak, dependant, ignorant and those willing to do anything for a free handout in exchange for submitting to others and never having to accept responsibily for their own actions..
The left hates the strong, intellegent, free thinkers. Those that can take care of themselves, that will not stand for injustice and will accept nothing less than controlling their own destiny!
They prey on the weak, dependant, ignorant and those willing to do anything for a free handout in exchange for submitting to others and never having to accept responsibily for their own actions..
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I don't think it's appropriate to post it here , but the videos of how it ended for Kaddafi are out there.
All of these tyrants were positive they had the world by the balls.
Till they didn't.
Why isn't Lobby Day scheduled for before these bills are brought up?
S.B. 12 - Patron: Saslaw (Universal Background Checks)
S.B. 22 - Patron: Saslaw (One handgun a month)
S.B. 35 - Patron: Surovell (bans guns for parades, marches, etc.)
S.B. 69 - Patron: Locke (One handgun a month)
S.B. 70 - Patron: Lucas (Universal Background Checks)
S.B. 240 - Patron: Barker (Red Flag law)
S.B. 450 - Patron: Edwards (bans guns at Board of Supervisor meetings or City Council meetings)
S.B. 505 - Patron: Edwards (Bans guns in local government buildings)
S.B. 543 - Patron: Edwards (Closes non-existent "Gun show loophole")
S.B. 615 - Patron: Deeds (bans guns in local government buildings and in parks)
For details on those proposed bills: Bill Tracking 2020 Session
You can be certain that these are scheduled in this way as a way of spitting in the face of those who are planning on showing up on lobby day. This way they can see the faces of people when they tell them "We already took care of some of the guns, just wait for what we do next."
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No. Bills get filed beginning on the first day of the General Assembly session. Lobby Day is for citizens to speak with their representatives about the specific points - pro and con - of the bills that are introduced in this session. It couldn't be the other way around or there wouldn't be much to talk about.
It is important, I think, to re-emphasize that Lobby Day is for polite, businesslike meetings which address the facts and principles of the pending legislation. Our credibility is based on the fact that we are more polite, more knowledgeable, more fact-and-logic based, and demonstrably better citizens, than the opposition. IT IS NOT A PROTEST. If you think you are going to make noise and DEMAND MUH CONSTITOOSHUN during the in-building part of the day, please stay outside.
It is important, I think, to re-emphasize that Lobby Day is for polite, businesslike meetings which address the facts and principles of the pending legislation. Our credibility is based on the fact that we are more polite, more knowledgeable, more fact-and-logic based, and demonstrably better citizens, than the opposition. IT IS NOT A PROTEST. If you think you are going to make noise and DEMAND MUH CONSTITOOSHUN during the in-building part of the day, please stay outside.
minininjer
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Lobby Day is set aside by the GA every year on MLK Day. Since it’s a federal holiday, it may be easier for people to go. Some people (not you, was reading that ar15.com thread) falsely think VCDL messed up and scheduled lobby day on the first day of SHOT Show Lol
Lobby Day is scheduled by the General Assembly. VCDL and many many other advocacy groups (non gun related) and people go and talk to their reps. You can talk to your reps at any time you’d like but this is a day that they are there specifically for you to talk to them. You can either make appointments ahead of time or just walk into their offices.
The Jan 13 one is a committee meeting that you (I, we) can go to and have your voice heard. Nothing has passed yet. There’s still a “chance.”
Although it doesn't come right out and say it, they'll "re-interpret" it to property that the buildings sit on, or within property lines.
I'm willing to bet that next will be "withing 500 ft of property lines" then 1000 ft, so on, so on until its all of Richmond.
Tennessee Tax Revolt popped into my head.
Tennessee Tax Revolt - Wikipedia
2 completely different situations, but the end result is there.
VCDL reporting that Senator Saslaw's AW ban bill has been pulled.
minininjer
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I saw that this morning as well but which one? Is it confirmed? And what is he gonna propose in its place?
minininjer
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This morning’s committee meeting... unfortunately, the bills passed (one handgun per month, red flag, etc.). They’ll go to the Senate now.
You don’t need an account to watch this video:
Important Update from the Senate... - Senator Amanda Chase | Facebook
Confirmed that SB 16 , Dick Saslaw’s AWB bill, has been pulled.
You don’t need an account to watch this video:
Important Update from the Senate... - Senator Amanda Chase | FacebookConfirmed that SB 16 , Dick Saslaw’s AWB bill, has been pulled.
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The bills moved forward only, and not passed into law, right?
minininjer
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Correct. They are NOT laws yet. They passed and will move forward onto the floor of the Senate later this week.
Maybe... just maybe the pressure being applied is having some effect...
"Push to ban assault weapons in Virginia meets resistance
Some top Virginia Democratic senators are expressing reservations about plans to ban assault weapons — a key part of the new Democratic majority’s gun-control proposals and one that’s drawn fierce resistance from gun-rights advocates.
“A lot of people don’t really understand assault weapons and how complicated the issue really is,” said Democratic Sen. John Edwards. “It’s going to be very difficult to figure out a way to do it. But we’re studying it, that’s all I can say.”
He’s one of at least four moderate senators — the others are Sens. Chap Petersen, Creigh Deeds and Lynwood Lewis — who are skeptical of plans to ban assault weapons. None of them has ruled out voting for an assault weapon ban, but all have said they aren’t impressed with any of the drafts of proposed bans they’ve seen.
“I’ve not seen an enforceable bill that makes sense yet,” Deeds said.
Heated debates over guns are set to dominate this year’s legislative session. A failure to pass an assault weapon ban would be a blow to Democrats.
The Senate Judiciary Committee, headed by Edwards, moved quickly Monday to advance several pieces of gun legislation that a Republican majority has blocked for years. Those bills include limiting handgun purchases to once a month, universal background checks on gun purchases, allowing localities to ban guns in public buildings, parks and other areas, and a red flag bill that would allow authorities to temporarily take guns away from anyone deemed to be dangerous to themselves or others.
But a ban on assault weapons was not put on the docket for debate.
www.wric.com
"Push to ban assault weapons in Virginia meets resistance
Some top Virginia Democratic senators are expressing reservations about plans to ban assault weapons — a key part of the new Democratic majority’s gun-control proposals and one that’s drawn fierce resistance from gun-rights advocates.
“A lot of people don’t really understand assault weapons and how complicated the issue really is,” said Democratic Sen. John Edwards. “It’s going to be very difficult to figure out a way to do it. But we’re studying it, that’s all I can say.”
He’s one of at least four moderate senators — the others are Sens. Chap Petersen, Creigh Deeds and Lynwood Lewis — who are skeptical of plans to ban assault weapons. None of them has ruled out voting for an assault weapon ban, but all have said they aren’t impressed with any of the drafts of proposed bans they’ve seen.
“I’ve not seen an enforceable bill that makes sense yet,” Deeds said.
Heated debates over guns are set to dominate this year’s legislative session. A failure to pass an assault weapon ban would be a blow to Democrats.
The Senate Judiciary Committee, headed by Edwards, moved quickly Monday to advance several pieces of gun legislation that a Republican majority has blocked for years. Those bills include limiting handgun purchases to once a month, universal background checks on gun purchases, allowing localities to ban guns in public buildings, parks and other areas, and a red flag bill that would allow authorities to temporarily take guns away from anyone deemed to be dangerous to themselves or others.
But a ban on assault weapons was not put on the docket for debate.
Push to ban assault weapons in Virginia meets resistance
Some top Virginia Democratic senators are expressing reservations about plans to ban assault weapons — a key part of the new Democratic majority’s gun-control proposals and one that’s drawn fierce …
www.wric.com
minininjer
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Watch out for HB 961. SB 16 is gone but this other AWB one is bad... worse.
HB 961: Prohibiting sale, transport, etc., of assault firearms, certain firearm magazines, silencers, and trigger activators; penalties
Expands the definition of "assault firearm" and prohibits any person from importing, selling, transferring, manufacturing, purchasing, possessing, or transporting an assault firearm. A violation is a Class 6 felony. The bill prohibits a dealer from selling, renting, trading, or transferring from his inventory an assault firearm to any person. The bill also prohibits a person from carrying a shotgun with a magazine that will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered in a public place; under existing law, this prohibition applies only in certain localities. The bill makes it a Class 6 felony to import, sell, transfer, manufacture, purchase, possess, or transport large-capacity firearm magazines, silencers, and trigger activators, all defined in the bill. Any person who legally owns an assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator on July 1, 2020, may retain possession until January 1, 2021. During that time, such person shall (i) render the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator inoperable; (ii) remove the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator from the Commonwealth; (iii) transfer the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator to a person outside the Commonwealth who is not prohibited from possessing it; or (iv) surrender the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator to a state or local law-enforcement agency.
The bill further states that any person who legally owns an assault firearm on July 1, 2020, may retain possession of such assault firearm after January 1, 2021, if such person has obtained a permit from the Department of State Police to possess an assault firearm in accordance with procedures established in the bill. A person issued such permit may possess an assault firearm only under the following conditions: (a) while in his home or on his property or while on the property of another who has provided prior permission, provided that the person has the landowner's written permission on his person while on such property; (b) while at a shooting range, shooting gallery, or other area designated for the purpose of target shooting or the target range of a public or private club or organization whose members have organized for the purpose of practicing shooting targets or competing in target shooting matches; (c) while engaged in lawful hunting; or (d) while surrendering the assault firearm to a state or local law-enforcement agency. A person issued such permit may also transport an assault firearm between any of those locations, provided that such assault firearm is unloaded and secured within a closed container while being transported. The bill also provides that failure to display the permit and a photo identification upon demand by a law-enforcement officer shall be punishable by a $25 civil penalty, which shall be paid into the state treasury. The bill also requires the Department of State Police to enter the name and description of a person issued a permit in the Virginia Criminal Information Network (VCIN) so that the permit's existence and current status will be made known to the law-enforcement personnel accessing VCIN for investigative purposes.
HB 961: Prohibiting sale, transport, etc., of assault firearms, certain firearm magazines, silencers, and trigger activators; penalties
Expands the definition of "assault firearm" and prohibits any person from importing, selling, transferring, manufacturing, purchasing, possessing, or transporting an assault firearm. A violation is a Class 6 felony. The bill prohibits a dealer from selling, renting, trading, or transferring from his inventory an assault firearm to any person. The bill also prohibits a person from carrying a shotgun with a magazine that will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered in a public place; under existing law, this prohibition applies only in certain localities. The bill makes it a Class 6 felony to import, sell, transfer, manufacture, purchase, possess, or transport large-capacity firearm magazines, silencers, and trigger activators, all defined in the bill. Any person who legally owns an assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator on July 1, 2020, may retain possession until January 1, 2021. During that time, such person shall (i) render the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator inoperable; (ii) remove the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator from the Commonwealth; (iii) transfer the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator to a person outside the Commonwealth who is not prohibited from possessing it; or (iv) surrender the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator to a state or local law-enforcement agency.
The bill further states that any person who legally owns an assault firearm on July 1, 2020, may retain possession of such assault firearm after January 1, 2021, if such person has obtained a permit from the Department of State Police to possess an assault firearm in accordance with procedures established in the bill. A person issued such permit may possess an assault firearm only under the following conditions: (a) while in his home or on his property or while on the property of another who has provided prior permission, provided that the person has the landowner's written permission on his person while on such property; (b) while at a shooting range, shooting gallery, or other area designated for the purpose of target shooting or the target range of a public or private club or organization whose members have organized for the purpose of practicing shooting targets or competing in target shooting matches; (c) while engaged in lawful hunting; or (d) while surrendering the assault firearm to a state or local law-enforcement agency. A person issued such permit may also transport an assault firearm between any of those locations, provided that such assault firearm is unloaded and secured within a closed container while being transported. The bill also provides that failure to display the permit and a photo identification upon demand by a law-enforcement officer shall be punishable by a $25 civil penalty, which shall be paid into the state treasury. The bill also requires the Department of State Police to enter the name and description of a person issued a permit in the Virginia Criminal Information Network (VCIN) so that the permit's existence and current status will be made known to the law-enforcement personnel accessing VCIN for investigative purposes.
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I have not been keeping up with this thread. I should have...
Great job with all the updates and grunt-work Minininjer! It is good to know We have Virginia in very capable hands.
To Warm_Garand: Your comments are "Not Cool" and very inaccurate as to Cindy's huge and irreplaceable postings here.
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Great job with all the updates and grunt-work Minininjer! It is good to know We have Virginia in very capable hands.
To Warm_Garand: Your comments are "Not Cool" and very inaccurate as to Cindy's huge and irreplaceable postings here.
~Enbloc
I can only guess that our donk reps in NH are watching VA, taking copious notes and getting all lubed up over what's happening down there. If they keep both houses and win the corner office (Heaven forbid), we are next. It's imperative that every conservative in the state votes this November, every one.
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