Gun Confiscation Coming in Virginia

[AFVet]

I had a thought about 2A and please don't flame me if I'm wrong but here goes,, Since the "State, Gov. etc" is trying to take away your PDW's is he not also taking away your ability to become a militia if necessary which is guarantied under 2A ? If i'm saying this correctly, could it be used as a legal argument against them ?

 

[namedpipes]

I had a thought about 2A and please don't flame me if I'm wrong but here goes,, Since the "State, Gov. etc" is trying to take away your PDW's is he not also taking away your ability to become a militia if necessary which is guarantied under 2A ? If i'm saying this correctly, could it be used as a legal argument against them ?

Any rational person would come to the conclusion you just stated.

Sadly, our lawmakers aren't rational and the activists are outright delusional. They don't CARE that what they want is against the law. They want us disarmed PERIOD.

But yes, IMO, that is a decent argument.

 

[Radtekk]

I had a thought about 2A and please don't flame me if I'm wrong but here goes,, Since the "State, Gov. etc" is trying to take away your PDW's is he not also taking away your ability to become a militia if necessary which is guarantied under 2A ? If i'm saying this correctly, could it be used as a legal argument against them ?

Any rational person would come to the conclusion you just stated.

Sadly, our lawmakers aren't rational and the activists are outright delusional. They don't CARE that what they want is against the law. They want us disarmed PERIOD.

But yes, IMO, that is a decent argument.

Damned good one I'd say!

 

[minininjer]

I had a thought about 2A and please don't flame me if I'm wrong but here goes,, Since the "State, Gov. etc" is trying to take away your PDW's is he not also taking away your ability to become a militia if necessary which is guarantied under 2A ? If i'm saying this correctly, could it be used as a legal argument against them ?

They would probably say, “Well, we aren’t taking all of your guns. You’ll have revolvers still.”

Great, thanks...

 

[minininjer]

VCDL just posted this:

“From Former VA Delagate Bob Thomas:
(VCDL will be putting out a VA-ALERT on this)

Update from Richmond: The first gun ban has passed. The Joint Rules Committee (a small group of senior legislators) passed rules banning firearms from the Capitol. This ban includes legislators and law enforcement professionals who are not members of the Capitol Police. Legislators will not go through metal detectors, but if found to be carrying will be escorted from the Capitol grounds. Our own Sheriff Decatur, or his staff, will not be able to carry a firearm when testifying on bills.

What is most disappointing about this vote, is this major policy will not be voted on by the entire House and Senate. We deserve to know where our elected officials stand on this issue.”

 

[June4th]

Traitors are a bit afraid of being shot now, heh? As if anyone intended to do them harm, the capital building were going to be the chosen place...

 

[Cowgirlup]

Yep. Jan 20 is lobby day for Virginia. For those who aren't familiar, it's basically a loosely structured business meeting with politicians. You voice your opinions to them. Now, VCDL has also added a rally outside on capitol grounds, which is great for people who want to support and get hyped but It's not a "protest" by any means.. People can wear and bring whatever the hell they want but........ seriously, night vision? at a day time rally? Why? Just because? Tacticool? They think it's gonna be Black Hawk Down or what? Long guns will distract from the message we actually want to send. People who storm the capitol with plate carriers, ballistic helmets, NVGs, and guns in the ready position are playing right into what the mass media / antis want to see. Those are the only things places like The Washington Post will talk about.

Exactly right! And most of the brainwashed left also has this bias. They expect people with Scary Killy Gunz to look like they stepped out of a backwoods mental institution. Looking angry (even though it's justified) just feeds the flames. It's sad but it's true.

 

[Radtekk]

Update from Richmond: The first gun ban has passed. The Joint Rules Committee (a small group of senior legislators) passed rules banning firearms from the Capitol. This ban includes legislators and law enforcement professionals who are not members of the Capitol Police. Legislators will not go through metal detectors, but if found to be carrying will be escorted from the Capitol grounds. Our own Sheriff Decatur, or his staff, will not be able to carry a firearm when testifying on bills.

As distasteful as this is, I'm ecstatic that they've included non-Capitol police. Cops are civilians, or are SUPPOSED to be, just like the rest of us. I think it's also telling that legislators are supposedly exempt from being scanned but subject to the rule anyway,if caught.

 

[June4th]

As distasteful as this is, I'm ecstatic that they've included non-Capitol police. Cops are civilians, or are SUPPOSED to be, just like the rest of us. I think it's also telling that legislators are supposedly exempt from being scanned but subject to the rule anyway,if caught.

I interpret this a bit differently: with the 2A sanctuary movement now spread to 95% of counties, many led by sheriffs, the leftist legislators increasingly feel distrust of rural police. They are painting themselves into a corner, much like the then Romanian dictator Ceausescu only found loyalty in his palace guard/secret police when the military turned against him.

Be afraid, they should. When government is afraid of the people, it’s a republic.

 

[Radtekk]

I interpret this a bit differently: with the 2A sanctuary movement now spread to 95% of counties, many led by sheriffs, the leftist legislators increasingly feel distrust of rural police. They are painting themselves into a corner, much like the then Romanian dictator Ceausescu only found loyalty in his palace guard/secret police when the military turned against him.

Be afraid, they should. When government is afraid of the people, it’s a republic.

Exactly. Showing disdain for and distrust of the police isolates them, and tends (I think) to bend the police in our direction, or at least away from "them". Making it even LESS likely they'll stack up for confiscations.

 

[wahsben]

VCDL just posted this:

“From Former VA Delagate Bob Thomas:
(VCDL will be putting out a VA-ALERT on this)

Update from Richmond: The first gun ban has passed. The Joint Rules Committee (a small group of senior legislators) passed rules banning firearms from the Capitol. This ban includes legislators and law enforcement professionals who are not members of the Capitol Police. Legislators will not go through metal detectors, but if found to be carrying will be escorted from the Capitol grounds. Our own Sheriff Decatur, or his staff, will not be able to carry a firearm when testifying on bills.

What is most disappointing about this vote, is this major policy will not be voted on by the entire House and Senate. We deserve to know where our elected officials stand on this issue.”

Since compliance with unconstitutional laws throughout the decades has emboldened government officials to infringe upon our rights. I wonder how much if any non-compliance will occur? This action by the legislators could very well create an even more dangerous situation.

 

[AFVet]

Traitors are a bit afraid of being shot now, heh? As if anyone intended to do them harm, the capital building were going to be the chosen place...

It probably isn't the locals they are worried about, since they ( the locals ) know how to act and what to do on Lobby Day.

 

[jrpascucci]

This action by the legislators could very well create an even more dangerous situation.

This was my immediate thought, and very probably the intent behind the law.

Maybe someone can get an injunction.

 

[watchman]

VCDL just posted this:

“From Former VA Delagate Bob Thomas:
(VCDL will be putting out a VA-ALERT on this)

Update from Richmond: The first gun ban has passed. The Joint Rules Committee (a small group of senior legislators) passed rules banning firearms from the Capitol. This ban includes legislators and law enforcement professionals who are not members of the Capitol Police. Legislators will not go through metal detectors, but if found to be carrying will be escorted from the Capitol grounds. Our own Sheriff Decatur, or his staff, will not be able to carry a firearm when testifying on bills.

What is most disappointing about this vote, is this major policy will not be voted on by the entire House and Senate. We deserve to know where our elected officials stand on this issue.”

This new law passed knowing the current climate they have created goes to show you they will let you talk but at the end of the day they have every intention to pass every BS law without the input of the taxpaying citizens themselves.

 

[cams]

It probably isn't the locals they are worried about, since they ( the locals ) know how to act and what to do on Lobby Day.

Quite possible. I’m sure they have people scanning the web looking for intel on possible threats or groups who plan on disrupting a peaceful event. They see some folks coming in heavy and some of them talking smack on open source sites, and to them it’s only wise to now implement more rules because of that.

Obv cant confirm that's the case here but you never know, that’s why it’s so idiotic and amateurish to post those kinds of things online with an upcoming event of this size and importance.

 

[minininjer]

It probably isn't the locals they are worried about, since they ( the locals ) know how to act and what to do on Lobby Day.

Absolutely right (in my opinion, at least). We've been going to lobby days open carrying and concealed carrying and have not had any issues. It's likely because of so many people saying they're going to come in heavy and just the amount of people expected.

 

[Dadstoys]

Yeah--f*** you.

The "young lady" is under the impression that our rights are derived from our wardrobe's panache, and that we need to perfume ourselves before begging them from our betters.

Let's just say that I disagree.

Right back atcha.

 

[wahsben]

We've been going to lobby days open carrying and concealed carrying and have not had any issues.

Wasn't that all before the democrats became the majority? Now that they've got the majority and want to ram unconstitutional laws through they have to be concerned that the people have had enough of playing nice with them and that more than just talk could occur. I'd say that's the reason they rushed the gun free zone for that area through. Of course as is typical of these people they think that a law will make them safe but the reality is laws only work when people choose to obey them and people are getting very sick and tired of being blamed for the acts of criminals and of the violations of their constitutional rights.

 

[namedpipes]

Quite possible. I’m sure they have people scanning the web looking for intel on possible threats or groups who plan on disrupting a peaceful event. They see some folks coming in heavy and some of them talking smack on open source sites, and to them it’s only wise to now implement more rules because of that.

Obv cant confirm that's the case here but you never know, that’s why it’s so idiotic and amateurish to post those kinds of things online with an upcoming event of this size and importance.

Or he was setting out feed corn and couldn't understand why this forum full of red necked paramilitary gun nuts didn't want anything to do with him.

 

[jrpascucci]

Some scant good news. Update from VCDL:

With almost no notice and not even saying who is on the Rules committee until late last night, the Democrats changed the rules to ban guns in the General Assembly and the Capitol buildings. THERE IS NO EXCEPTION FOR CHP HOLDERS.

IMPORTANT: there is NO ban outside those buildings, including on the Capitol grounds. Thus, those attending the VCDL Lobby Day Rally, which is an outside event on the Capitol steps, CAN be legally armed.

 

[Coyote33]

VCDL just posted this:
“From Former VA Delagate Bob Thomas:
(VCDL will be putting out a VA-ALERT on this)
Update from Richmond: The first gun ban has passed. The Joint Rules Committee (a small group of senior legislators) passed rules banning firearms from the Capitol. This ban includes legislators and law enforcement professionals who are not members of the Capitol Police. Legislators will not go through metal detectors, but if found to be carrying will be escorted from the Capitol grounds. Our own Sheriff Decatur, or his staff, will not be able to carry a firearm when testifying on bills.
What is most disappointing about this vote, is this major policy will not be voted on by the entire House and Senate. We deserve to know where our elected officials stand on this issue.”

So, HOW exactly, WAS this voted through? How do they sneak these things in and get them through? Did they ever think THIS is the reason for the 2A? It is proof of itself.

Some scant good news. Update from VCDL:

That was GOOD news?


@cams and @Srboostjunkie , what does having a "full kilt" have to do with anything?

 

[In God We Trust]

So the lawmakers are passing laws to protect themselves from the plebes. They are not afraid yet, they are just continuing to spit in your eye. Show them that you are Americans and the decendents of Men who would not be ruled.

 

[Nick Fury]

@cams and @Srboostjunkie , what does having a "full kilt" have to do with anything?

Breezy balls?

 

[cams]

@cams and @Srboostjunkie , what does having a "full kilt" have to do with anything?

Not sure if serious or if one of us had a typo.

“Full kit”. All of your individually worn assault gear. IE: “Get it on boys we’re moving out.” The ‘it’ is your kit.

 

[jrpascucci]

Some scant good news. Update from VCDL:

I suppose I should add that the executive might still somehow manage to ban guns from the capitol grounds, and hasn't yet.

 

[cams]

So here’s an interesting thought, what’s going to happen when or if 100% of towns or cities in VA go 2A sanctuary? I think they’re already at 90% if I’m not mistaken? (Either that or I’m misinterpreting it)

So you’ve got 90-100% 2A Sanctuary, but the .gov still passes all this BS. Who then blinks first? Who steps out of line and says we’re (The People) now removing you all from office since YOU work for US.

 

[xtry51]

So let me make sure this is correct, a bunch of people are going to be disarmed and walk into a building, then attempt to vote away guns held by people surrounding the building?

My simple response to this is surround the building with people carrying rifles and after they vote people who supported gun laws aren't allowed to leave. Are there trees on the property to hang them from immediately after they vote?

 

[watchman]

So here’s an interesting thought, what’s going to happen when or if 100% of towns or cities in VA go 2A sanctuary? I think they’re already at 90% if I’m not mistaken? (Either that or I’m misinterpreting it)

So you’ve got 90-100% 2A Sanctuary, but the .gov still passes all this BS. Who then blinks first? Who steps out of line and says we’re (The People) now removing you all from office since YOU work for US.

When the Dems find a bunch of mall cop wannbe libtard's looking for the opportunity to strip your guns from you and they will find them good luck is all I can say as these pols embolden themselves.

 

[Waher]

VA is 95% 2A sanctuaries now 126 out of 133 jurisdictions. The legislature there is so disconnected from the people because of gerrymandering and a lack of candidates that it isn't a republican from of government. The people aren't being represented and thusly the government doesn't have the consent of the governed. The left loves power too much to understand that blatantly lopsided arrangements like that aren't sustainable with populations which aren't docile sheep. The law is supposed to equitably represent and protect the people and when it doesn't it isn't legitimate.

 

[cams]

VA is 95% 2A sanctuaries now 126 out of 133 jurisdictions. The legislature there is so disconnected from the people because of gerrymandering and a lack of candidates that it isn't a republican from of government. The people aren't being represented and thusly the government doesn't have the consent of the governed. The left loves power too much to understand that blatantly lopsided arrangements like that aren't sustainable with populations which aren't docile sheep. The law is supposed to equitably represent and protect the people and when it doesn't it isn't legitimate.

Well said. Going to be an interesting outcome for sure.