Guide to gun rights in your Massachusetts town

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i was looking online and it says that Ma has 40 days to respond on your LTC what does that mean see post that its taken 9 months is that even legal for them to take that long im only 4 weeks into mine hoping its not going to take 9 months
 
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cody23 said:
i was looking online and it says that Ma has 40 days to respond on your LTC what does that mean see post that its taken 9 months is that even legal for them to take that long im only 4 weeks into mine hoping its not going to take 9 months
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It means nothing. You should take this time during your wait period to research information, laws, rules to follow by, your first firearm, etc. Good luck [grin]

M1911 said:
Proper punctuation is your friend.
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I concur [wink]
 
cody23 said:
i was looking online and it says that Ma has 40 days to respond on your LTC what does that mean see post that its taken 9 months is that even legal for them to take that long im only 4 weeks into mine hoping its not going to take 9 months
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Unfortunatly, there is no teeth to the law, so there is really no motivation for a PD to issue in under 40 days....
 
FragSleeve said:
From what I read on the forms previously, I thought that Foxborough was good to go. I thought that maybe the CoP changed, but it seems that O'Leary has been there since at least 2009 (I only found one annual report from the website).
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LenS said:
Ed's been Chief in Foxboro since at least the early 1980s. He was one of my instructors in the Police Academy back then. I'm pretty sure that he's still in that position.
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A couple of days ago I spoke with a Foxboro PD Officer at Patriot Place. He confirmed that Ed is still Chief and hasn't announced any retirement plans.
 
I've heard that they've had printing problems in Chelsea, which have resulted in a significant backlog of issuances and delays in getting out printed licenses. Anyone else heard this and/or have any idea what sort of additional delays this is creating?
 
I applied for my LTC - A at Malden this January, and i got it roughly 3 weeks later, unrestricted. Malden is GREEN :)
 
mike98 said:
6+ weeks still waiting in watertown this city blows cant wait to move to a green town if i can sell my house :(
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I know hindsight is always 20/20, but if you were planning to move, I would have waited to apply for an LTC until AFTER you moved out of Watertown.
 
to those of you complaining of wait times, it may be across the board, I received my LTC A unrestricted in franklin and it took 3.5 weeks but both a friend and my girlfriend both applied recently and it has been 4 weeks already and they told them to expect 6ish due to a state police backlog

how valid that is I am not sure but I know Franklin generally puts them thru rather quickly
 
Revelationechc said:
Interesting thing happened this weekend. I mentioned in a public forum that the Chicopee police dept only issue hunting/target/sporting restricted LTCs. Mike Bissonette, the mayor of Chicopee, saw what I posted and replied directly to me. He said he was unaware of these blanket restrictions and would look into it. Not sure how this will pan out, but maybe some traction will be gained. I will post again if anything new happens. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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Got my response this morning from the Mayor of Chicopee. He stated that the MGL allows the chief to make the decisions in his juristiction. So nothing new here and no surprise benefit. I am sending a letter to the Chief today, I hope he responds favorably.
 
Revelationechc said:
Got my response this morning from the Mayor of Chicopee. He stated that the MGL allows the chief to make the decisions in his juristiction. So nothing new here and no surprise benefit. I am sending a letter to the Chief today, I hope he responds favorably.
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That stinks. Doesn't surprise me though. If an LTC-A is issued, it should be issued with restriction-none. I don't understand, how they can figure you're good enough to get the class LTC-A, but then put a restriction on it afterward. Why not give a B or an FID then. Pisses me off.

I know what you're going through BTW. because I am in the process AGAIN of trying to get my restriction removed. If they say no again this time, I will be moving forward with taking the city I live in to court.

We shouldn't need a license regardless. But, since we have what we have, if a class A is issued, there should be no reason whatsoever to restrict it afterwards. makes no sense. Your suitability wasn't an issue to get the class A, but by restricting it, they are almost saying you're not good enough to CCW.
 
ntomsw said:
That stinks. Doesn't surprise me though. If an LTC-A is issued, it should be issued with restriction-none. I don't understand, how they can figure you're good enough to get the class LTC-A, but then put a restriction on it afterward. Why not give a B or an FID then. Pisses me off.

I know what you're going through BTW. because I am in the process AGAIN of trying to get my restriction removed. If they say no again this time, I will be moving forward with taking the city I live in to court.
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Well, if I received an LTC-B instead of an LTC-A, I would have to give up a few of my firearms. So, regardless of concealed carry I still need an LTC-A. The restrictions are ridiculous though, I agree. Best of luck with getting the restriction removed. And if you have to go to court, my hat's off to you. That takes balls and I wish more people in locked down towns would do it.
 
Just try and make it a solid case, get the right lawyer, talk to Comm2A. We don't need any bad precedents being set because of a botched case.
 
PappyM3 said:
Well, if I received an LTC-B instead of an LTC-A, I would have to give up a few of my firearms. So, regardless of concealed carry I still need an LTC-A. The restrictions are ridiculous though, I agree. Best of luck with getting the restriction removed. And if you have to go to court, my hat's off to you. That takes balls and I wish more people in locked down towns would do it.
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Yeah, I am not advocating for Class B's, just saying I hate the system we have pretty much. It makes no sense. I guess if I myself wasn't restricted, maybe I would be so pissed about it. I just don't get it.
 
exodious said:
Just try and make it a solid case, get the right lawyer, talk to Comm2A. We don't need any bad precedents being set because of a botched case.
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I shouldn't even need a damn case. My city issued me a restricted license. I have now had my LTC for 1 full year. I am a good little sheep and do everything I am suppose to do, and they have no reason to continue to deny my request. I don't care if I have only had my LTC for 1 year or not. If I got an an LTC-A, then I should be allowed to CCW. Period.

Now, in 2 weeks when I call, maybe this time I will have good news. In January I did not. So, maybe this time they will say yes, who knows. I will no longer play this dog & pony show with these people. You have no reason to deny me my request, so give me my restrictions-none. End of discussion.

So, yes I will wait a response from them, and if it is not the answer I want, I will move forward with what I need to do. I should not have to up-route my family and move to a green town, because of these people.
 
ntomsw said:
I shouldn't even need a damn case. My city issued me a restricted license. I have now had my LTC for 1 full year. I am a good little sheep and do everything I am suppose to do, and they have no reason to continue to deny my request. I don't care if I have only had my LTC for 1 year or not. If I got an an LTC-A, then I should be allowed to CCW. Period.

Now, in 2 weeks when I call, maybe this time I will have good news. In January I did not. So, maybe this time they will say yes, who knows. I will no longer play this dog & pony show with these people. You have no reason to deny me my request, so give me my restrictions-none. End of discussion.

So, yes I will wait a response from them, and if it is not the answer I want, I will move forward with what I need to do. I should not have to up-route my family and move to a green town, because of these people.
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Oh I agree with you completely, it's total BS and you shouldn't have to put up with it. At the end of the day do what you need to do. I would just recommend at least talking to the folks at Comm2A about it first to see if they have any advice.
 
edhead35 said:
Hi all. Unfortunately, for reasons I will not get into, I will be moving from the great state of NH, to the Socialist Republic of MA. I am obviously not happy about this, but this will happen in the next year or so.

I work in Boston, and my wife will work in Rockland. Can anyone suggest some towns that would be good for a gun owner? I know the list is helpful, but the list isnt totally solid, as some decent green towns will restrict people once in awhile.

Things to think of for my situation...
Licensing authority being pro gun, and not likely to restrict our LTCs.
Distance to a gun club
Commuting no more than 50 miles to Boston.
Able to commute to Rockland in about 45 minutes. (Rockland is a bitch to get to I understand from certain areas).
General lifestyle - I prefer rural or spread out suburbs
House rentals availability
Distance to gun shops or other fun places.

Suggestions?
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Rockland is right off the highway (Route 3, Exit 14), so it's not that hard to get to. 25 minutes to downtown Boston at speed limit with no traffic.

However, *most* of the South Shore within Plymouth County is pretty green, and is generally some of the most politically conservative (everything being relative) areas in MA.

mikeyp said:
Plymouth? Want to buy a house? lol. My wife and I both work in Boston, she was in Rockland before. I take the bus in. It's far enough away where it's nice, but still easy enough to get there.
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The last stop before you hit the Cape, and pretty much hits on all his requirements.

Plymouth is green, and from what I hear, the civil service chief will probably be there a while. That's not a bad thing for LTC holders.
 
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Westwood still red. Applied for my first LTC, took ~50 days. He said I had one of the better letters he'd read but still didn't feel comfortable giving me unrestricted.

Restrictions aside, the process was pretty painless. When you let them know you want to apply for a LTC they have you come in and pick up an information packet that tells you everything you need to know, and even has a page explaining and warning you to be careful about question #10 (I think it's #10 anyways, the one that asks if you've ever appeared in court). Then you set up a meeting with the LO and he fills in the online form while you sit there. The LO is a pretty serious guy but is friendly and helpful, and actually recommended I come and check out this forum. I guess they're happy to give out unrestricted licenses upon renewal but are really strict about first licenses.

Could be better, but could also be a lot worse. Meh.

Send me a PM if you want more info.
 
Is there any updated news on Norwood? I have a couple of friends who are looking to apply there. Last info here looks like 2010. Any good news since?
 
Yup, they are getting a new chief in Norwood shortly, possibly within the next month or two. The new chief is likely to be much better at recognizing citizen's rights than the current chief.
 
Knuckle Dragger said:
How do you think he'll be about recognizing the rights of non-citizens? He's going to see a few of those.
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My impression from meeting him a couple of times is that he is a fair man and will do the right thing. HOWEVER, someone (CJIS/EOPS) has to define the process for doing "the right thing" or any app gets thrown back to the chief and goes nowhere. Translation, if CJIS says "no, they go thru us at Chelsea" then the local chief's efforts will go nowhere . . . and it will take many more months for all aliens to get interviews and process paperwork to get "no concealed carry allowed" permits from Chelsea.

No inside track, he came over to me and thanked me at the MSP Hearings on LEOSA (Bonded Warehouses were the other topic being heard), and I also chatted with him at the MSP Hearings that would have shut down all training/shooting leagues/etc. Discussions were strictly about the topics being heard and IIRC he testified against that onerous CMR attempt that would have killed off all firearms activities, however it's easy to get a first impression of a person and it was positive.
 
LenS said:
. . . and it will take many more months for all aliens to get interviews and process paperwork to get "no concealed carry allowed" permits from Chelsea.
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The wording of the ruling indicates that resident aliens will be applying for their licenses at the local level (when the new rules are posted from Jason's office).
 
Mass Firearms School said:
The wording of the ruling indicates that resident aliens will be applying for their licenses at the local level (when the new rules are posted from Jason's office).
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The above is key and what I alluded to above. I can't predict what they will do or when "they might get around to it". I know that Comm2A is just waiting to drop that second shoe if they drag their feet. [smile]
 
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