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can someone provide an intelligent argument for opposing this: H.2091 - Live fire requirement for license courses
Why on earth wouldn't you want someone who is getting a license to have at least fired a gun before??
Advice - do not be intimidated by some granny or preacher saving seats. Unless there is a crumpled old dried up ass in it, it is yours.
This has come down to harassment
Is it possible to submit testimony if you are not able to attend the hearing? My son is going in for surgery the 28th, so there's no way that I can get to the hearing, but I'd like to do something to stop this lot of life's rejects from making this "commonwealth" even worse.
can someone provide an intelligent argument for opposing this: H.2091 - Live fire requirement for license courses
Why on earth wouldn't you want someone who is getting a license to have at least fired a gun before??
Why the hell would we support ammo being signature required?
Would it be better to send the letters to the committee members and copy your state legislator?Yes, write a letter to your state legislators. If you need their address you can look them up on the GOAL website, look for the "Find My Legislator" option off of the Legislation tab of the main menu.
Would it be better to send the letters to the committee members and copy your state legislator?
Advice - do not be intimidated by some granny or preacher saving seats. Unless there is a crumpled old dried up ass in it, it is yours.
Because it's a solution in search of a problem, and throws up yet another barrier to gun ownership.
How often is someone injured by a licensed owner who has never fired a gun before? I bet that number is single digits over the past decade.
I’m tired of having to beg to keep my rights (what little are left). I’m not playing anymore, I’ll write my letters with this sentiment and more.
Pass a law that gives you ‘authority’ to enter my home without probable cause of a crime? I have the right to defend myself and my home.
Pass a law that says I have to surrender my property without due process? I will ignore it.
And on and on; if they want to play - let’s play. But not this Mother May I crap in front of legislators that will vote the way leadership tells them. Let’s play the F-U game; as in F-U I’m not going to comply, do you have the balls to make me?
Because the rest of the bill makes it explicitly legal for out of state dealers to ship ammo to Mass.
they'll come for you soon enough
I'm offering $100.00 gas/fuel money to one individual gun owner who packs up their belongings and moves out of MA if any of those ridiculous bills pass.
Yes, write a letter to your state legislators. If you need their address you can look them up on the GOAL website, look for the "Find My Legislator" option off of the Legislation tab of the main menu.
Would it be better to send the letters to the committee members and copy your state legislator?
It couldn't hurt to cc the committee chairs.
According to my state rep (who I've known him and his family for >40 yrs), writing to your state rep/senator PLUS the 2 co-chairs of Public Safety Committee are the way to go. The two co-chairs I am told will make copies and give the testimony to all the other members.Those people aren't reading emails and only open letters to see if there's money inside. The chance of your content reaching the eyes of the intended are slim to none. Physical numbers (asses in seats) at these things is what drives the message!
According to my state rep (who I've known him and his family for >40 yrs), writing to your state rep/senator PLUS the 2 co-chairs of Public Safety Committee are the way to go. The two co-chairs I am told will make copies and give the testimony to all the other members.
I've been there when 14 of the 16 members left Gardner Auditorium when our side was talking. Per my state rep, they do not record verbal testimony so don't be surprised if you are talking to a blank wall when you speak. Thus his suggestion to write to the co-chairs. Clicking on the names here will give you their Email and other contact info: https://malegislature.gov/Committees/Joint/J22
I attended these hearings for probably >20 yrs and it was the same circus each time. Politicians and "connected" get to jump the line and speak first, then the anti-crowd (and pretty much allowed as much time as they want) . . . all this with the rapt attention of all 16 members. Then our side is restricted to 3 min/person (with long lists of bills you want to address) and shut-down if you go over 3 minutes . . . all this with a mere handful of members present.Bolding is deliberate: Not a bash on you Len, The statement in bold above shows the utter contempt these narcissistic, holier than thou, bastards have for people. If people have the courtesy to show up, THEY should have a MANDATE to be present during the people's testimony.
The whole process is a fvcking fraud from beginning to end.....and they know it. They are going through the bothersome motions and could not care less what any adversely impacted person or groups has to say.
Its time to stand up and start publicly insulting them, video it and make it go viral.
I attended these hearings for probably >20 yrs and it was the same circus each time. Politicians and "connected" get to jump the line and speak first, then the anti-crowd (and pretty much allowed as much time as they want) . . . all this with the rapt attention of all 16 members. Then our side is restricted to 3 min/person (with long lists of bills you want to address) and shut-down if you go over 3 minutes . . . all this with a mere handful of members present.
I think that most know that it is a fraudulent process and that they only listen to the paid lobbyists (who grease their palms in various ways).
My skeptical mind tells me that they moved back the hearing as they expect a lot of politicians/connected/anti-groups to address them. When members disappear for lunch (the hearing continues), most will never return.
One would think that with this type of action by our legislators that a class action/civil lawsuit could be brought against them. These actions demonstrate discrimination/bias and a total lack of consideration in giving equal time to all parties. I know our corrupt Ma. courts would most likely rule in their favor but I'd think the outcome would be different at the Supreme court although one can't be sure.I attended these hearings for probably >20 yrs and it was the same circus each time. Politicians and "connected" get to jump the line and speak first, then the anti-crowd (and pretty much allowed as much time as they want) . . . all this with the rapt attention of all 16 members. Then our side is restricted to 3 min/person (with long lists of bills you want to address) and shut-down if you go over 3 minutes . . . all this with a mere handful of members present.
I can tell you from experience that written letters carry more weight than testimony. Emails are ok, paper is better. The state is required to keep correspondence as part of the record.