I love my Colt 1911. The problem is two fold.....one, it is a pain in the ass to clean....).
How is a 1911 difficult to clean?
For carry, I would go with a 3" 1911 or if you can't get one a 4.5 scandium. Easy to shoot, easy to carry
If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for a NES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over.
I love my Colt 1911. The problem is two fold.....one, it is a pain in the ass to clean....).
How is a 1911 difficult to clean?
For carry, I would go with a 3" 1911 or if you can't get one a 4.5 scandium. Easy to shoot, easy to carry
if i might suggest the ruger p345 approx.500 nib. shoots great very accurate and concealable. take a look.
ETA: Those who can't master the DA/SA trigger transition do not shoot much.
Same here.I was trained as a revolver shooter and think nothing of this
Same here.
I have never been a policeman, but revolvers were all I shot for the first three years of my serious handgunning. I am actually more accurate with a S&W K frame than I am with any semi auto pistol I have ever used.
How is a 1911 difficult to clean?
For carry, I would go with a 3" 1911 or if you can't get one a 4.5 scandium. Easy to shoot, easy to carry
Another excellent point - DA/SA transitions. I was trained as a revolver shooter and think nothing of this transition (PDs back in my day only issued revolvers). A new shooter will need to spend some time practicing DA and SA to get the hang of it so it becomes instinctive. Dry firing can help a lot, but Jose is right - there is no substitute for range time.
In the realm of this DA/SA concealment pistols, you cannot go with the S&W 3913, S&W 908, or the SIG P225.
Well, I should have warned y'all about me ... when I'm making an important decision, I do a TON of research, change up what I think I want a hundred times, but once I make a decision, I rarely regret it. Except my first marriage. Bad call there. Anyway, I hit MRA yesterday with a couple of friends. I realized that, as this is my first gun, I'm probably going to want to put a ton of rounds downrange to really get a feel for it. While at MRA, I put a few magazines through my friend's M&P9c and didn't mind it at all. So now I've swung the other way, and am considering small 9mm's instead of the 40's and 45's I was considering a week ago. So my new research has brought me to a few different options. I liked the M&P9c, and am probably not familiar enough with different trigger types to notice if the M&P9c's trigger is as bad as everyone says it is. I started looking at the older S&W 9mm pistols (908, 3913, 6906, etc.) and really like the look of them. The Walther P99c and PPS are both now on my radar, as are the H&K USPc, Sig P239 and Kahr PM9. I'm thinking that the Para Carry 9 might fit my earlier desire for a 1911 and my current desire for a 9mm, though they're expensive and I've heard mixed reviews on Para's QA. The S&W 3913, however, I've heard hardly anything but rave reviews on, and it looks like it might have similar characteristics (i.e. grip angle) to the 1911 class, but at half the price of the Para. Yes, my brain is an insanity-inducing (just ask my CURRENT wife), indecisive place. Help me, share your $0.02!
How is a 1911 difficult to clean?
For carry, I would go with a 3" 1911 or if you can't get one a 4.5 scandium. Easy to shoot, easy to carry
Did you mean I absolutely should not purchase the 3913, 908 or 225? Or did you mean to say I cannot go WRONG with any of those?
Did you mean I absolutely should not purchase the 3913, 908 or 225? Or did you mean to say I cannot go WRONG with any of those?
Sorry, I was typing so fast I left the word "wrong" out of it.
Yes, all those are excellent pistols for concealment. Though once you start concealing and realize that no one can tell, you will start carrying larger guns.
It is easier than most think to completely conceal a full size pistol such as a 1911, SIG 226, or S&W M&P or a full size revolver like a S&W Model 629.
To the OP: See my avatar for the perfect carry gun (I am waiting for people to come out of the woodwork, heheheh)
so I'm not ruling out a double-stack ... which brings the .40 options back into the mix. BAH! !
I agree. I carry either a P7M8 or a Glock 29... 90% of the time it's my 29. I agree the Glock 29 is an exceptional carry gun.
Sorry, I was typing so fast I left the word "wrong" out of it.
Yes, all those are excellent pistols for concealment. Though once you start concealing and realize that no one can tell, you will start carrying larger guns.
It is easier than most think to completely conceal a full size pistol such as a 1911, SIG 226, or S&W M&P or a full size revolver like a S&W Model 629.
Personally, I don't favor 1911s as carry guns for safety reasons--especially for new gun owners. As John Farnam (a nationally known defensive trainer) says "a single action gun is great for shooting people, but lousy for NOT shooting people."
If anyone would like a copy of my book chapter on trigger systems and why I have come to that conclusion, just send me your email and I would be happy to send it along.
that doesn't makes sense, are you trying to say that the lighter SA trigger makes accidental shootings more likely? Safety comes from proper training and mechanics, not from the trigger system. Odd advise from an instructor