Eric Holder to be Obama's AG

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http://www.usdoj.gov/archive/dag/speeches/1999/dagguns5399.htm
SPEECH OF DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL ERIC HOLDER, Monday, May 3, 1999

"It is completely constitutional and appropriate that the President proposed the following, none of which we are doing today:

First, to require people to wait a few days before they get a gun when they have purchased one, a cooling period, 3 days;

Second, to close the loophole which allows felons, fugitives, people with mental problems, and wife-beaters to buy guns and gun shows without a background check being performed;

To prohibit the possession of a firearm by an adult who committed a serious violent offense when that person was a juvenile;

To require folks who own guns to keep them safely locked up;

To prohibit juveniles already prohibited by law from possessing hand guns from possessing assault weapons;

To limit adults to one handgun purchase a month, and to hold parents liable when they recklessly leave firearms lying around and their children use those guns to commit acts of violence."
BOHICA
 
Saw a report on Fox news with the talking head saying the American people will question this choice blah blah.........
Too bad "we" have no say in the choice of his cabinet members.
People are such freakin sheeps in this country!!
Makes my head hurt!
 
In the past week there have been numerous op-eds and letters to the editor by Democrats who claim to be gun owners that pooh-pooh the sales boon at gun stores.

Their point that they make is that it's silly to be buying all these guns because Obama is not going to restrict guns.

Yet the most anti-gun President ever is assembling an administration that is every bit as anti-gun as Clinton's was. [It is hard to remember that Clinton, when Governor of Arkansas, was not particularly anti-gun.]

Does anyone think when the restrictions start to appear, these same writers will be published apologizing for their errors?

Actually, I expect "nuance". Something explaining how the laws are not "restrictions" but rather "reasonable public safety" laws.
 
Remember, he's all about "Change." Look at his transition team and cabinet picks -- they all came from the Clinton administration. "Change" is just rolling back the clock a few administrations.
 
The buying of firearms is definitely justified

The run on AR's and ammo is justified. The moves that our Chairman Elect has made in the past couple of weeks is very scary. Putting Holder as AG and overseeing pretty much the entire regulatory body of the firearms industry should frighten everyone.

The only other shoe to fall will be in the furture to see who heads up the BATFE. People did not like Sullivan but he will seem like Ted Nugent compared to who is put in. I have no doubt about it given who has already been appointed around the Chairman's Cabinet.

By the way all you people who said Obama has more important things to worry about then the 2nd amendment and ended up voting for this fraud j(ust like when you elected Deval) need to look in the mirror again. There are not many of them on here but there are a few and they have even defended him. Well be sure to get your AR's soon because it will be coming.
 
Remember, he's all about "Change." Look at his transition team and cabinet picks -- they all came from the Clinton administration. "Change" is just rolling back the clock a few administrations.

You beat me to this observation.
 
Remember, he's all about "Change." Look at his transition team and cabinet picks -- they all came from the Clinton administration. "Change" is just rolling back the clock a few administrations.

Now we are seeing the "cost" of Hitlery's "nomination by acclamation" motion.
 
Nice summary of Holder's VERY anti-gun positions at Volokh:
http://volokh.com/posts/1227228105.shtml

Eric Holder on firearms policy:

Earlier this year, Eric Holder--along with Janet Reno and several other former officials from the Clinton Department of Justice--co-signed an amicus brief in District of Columbia v. Heller. The brief was filed in support of DC's ban on all handguns, and ban on the use of any firearm for self-defense in the home. The brief argued that the Second Amendment is a "collective" right, not an individual one, and asserted that belief in the collective right had been the consistent policy of the U.S. Department of Justice since the FDR administration. A brief filed by some other former DOJ officials (including several Attorneys General, and Stuart Gerson, who was Acting Attorney General until Janet Reno was confirmed)took issue with the Reno-Holder brief's characterization of DOJ's viewpoint.

But at the least, the Reno-Holder brief accurately expressed the position of the Department of Justice when Janet Reno was Attorney General and Eric Holder was Deputy Attorney General. At the oral argument before the Fifth Circuit in United States v. Emerson, the Assistant U.S. Attorney told the panel that the Second Amendment was no barrier to gun confiscation, not even of the confiscation of guns from on-duty National Guardsmen.

As Deputy Attorney General, Holder was a strong supporter of restrictive gun control. He advocated federal licensing of handgun owners, a three day waiting period on handgun sales, rationing handgun sales to no more than one per month, banning possession of handguns and so-called "assault weapons" (cosmetically incorrect guns) by anyone under age of 21, a gun show restriction bill that would have given the federal government the power to shut down all gun shows, national gun registration, and mandatory prison sentences for trivial offenses (e.g., giving your son an heirloom handgun for Christmas, if he were two weeks shy of his 21st birthday). He also promoted the factoid that "Every day that goes by, about 12, 13 more children in this country die from gun violence"--a statistic is true only if one counts 18-year-old gangsters who shoot each other as "children."(Sources: Holder testimony before House Judiciary Committee, Subcommitee on Crime, May 27,1999; Holder Weekly Briefing, May 20, 2000. One of the bills that Holder endorsed is detailed in my 1999 Issue Paper "Unfair and Unconstitutional.")

After 9/11, he penned a Washington Post op-ed, "Keeping Guns Away From Terrorists" arguing that a new law should give "the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms a record of every firearm sale." He also stated that prospective gun buyers should be checked against the secret "watch lists" compiled by various government entities. (In an Issue Paper on the watch list proposal, I quote a FBI spokesman stating that there is no cause to deny gun ownership to someone simply because she is on the FBI list.)

After the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the D.C. handgun ban and self-defense ban were unconstitutional in 2007, Holder complained that the decision "opens the door to more people having more access to guns and putting guns on the streets."
 
Obama's Anti-Gun Agenda

Got this from the Ron Paul mailing list:






Holder Nomination Signals Obama's True Anti-Gun Agenda

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Eric Holder signed an amicus brief in the Heller case that supported the District of Columbia's handgun ban, and also argued that the Second Amendment does not protect an individual right. He has supported national handgun licensing and mandatory trigger locks. As deputy attorney general under Janet Reno, he lobbied Congress to pass legislation that would have curtailed legitimate gun shows.

This is not the record of a man who will come to office as the nation's top law enforcement officer with the rights and concerns of gun owners in mind.

Holder's nomination, like the appointment of anti-gun Illinois Congressman Rahm Emanuel as White House Chief of Staff, tells American gun owners that Obama's campaign claims supporting the Second Amendment were empty rhetoric.

America's 85 million gun owners have ample reason to be pessimistic about how their civil rights will fare under the Obama administration. Mr. Obama will have a Congress with an anti-gun Democrat majority leadership to push his gun control agenda. Gun owners have not forgotten Mr. Obama's acknowledged opposition to concealed carry rights, nor his support for a ban on handgun ownership when he was running for the Illinois state senate.

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book_a_must_readBarack Obama vigorously portrayed himself on the campaign trail as a man who supports gun ownership. But now that he has won the election, he is surrounding himself with people who are avowed gun prohibitionists. What better indication of what to expect from Barack Obama as president than the people he is selecting to lead his administration? This isn't a roster of devoted public servants. It's a rogue's gallery of extremists who have labored to erase the Second Amendment from the Bill of Rights.

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Also from Wikipedia:

While D.C. v. Heller was being heard by the Supreme Court in 2008, Holder joined the Reno-led amicus brief, which urged the Supreme Court to uphold Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban and said the Department of Justice from Franklin Roosevelt through Bill Clinton had always believed that the Second Amendment does not protect the rights of individuals to own guns for personal use.[22] Holder said that overturning the 1976 law "opens the door to more people having more access to guns and putting guns on the streets."[23]

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Holder

And why is the press reporting, that he will be the first black Attorney General of the US? The Wikipedia article says that he served for a few days in 2001 before John Ashcroft took the post.

Odd.
 
"While D.C. v. Heller was being heard by the Supreme Court in 2008, Holder joined the Reno-led amicus brief, which urged the Supreme Court to uphold Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban and said the Department of Justice from Franklin Roosevelt through Bill Clinton had always believed that the Second Amendment does not protect the rights of individuals to own guns for personal use.[22] Holder said that overturning the 1976 law "opens the door to more people having more access to guns and putting guns on the streets."

And how many people believed for hundreds of years that the earth was flat AND the center of the universe? Just because you believe it doesn't make it so.

I think a reasonable level of panic is justified right about now.
 
Eric Holder, what a great pick to be AG:

A Pardon to Remember
By GEORGE LARDNER Jr.
Published: November 22, 2008

Washington

WHEN President Bill Clinton pardoned a billionaire fugitive from justice on his last day in office, even usually loyal Democrats were dismayed. Representative Henry Waxman of California called it “bad precedent” and “an end run around the judicial process.” He said it appeared to set a double standard for the wealthy and powerful.

The billionaire was Marc Rich, a commodities trader, and his pardon is a subject of discussion again because Eric Holder, Mr. Clinton’s deputy attorney general at the time and a key figure in the clemency process, is reported to be Barack Obama’s choice for attorney general. In the years since the Rich pardon, Mr. Holder has said he “never devoted a great deal of time to this matter.” He also told an interviewer that, in hindsight, he wished that the Justice Department had been “more fully informed” about the case. As someone who helped cover the story for The Washington Post, I think the issue is far more complicated and deserves more scrutiny if Mr. Holder is to become our top law-enforcement official.

A little history first. In 1983, Marc Rich was indicted along with his partner, Pincus Green, and their companies on 65 counts of defrauding the I.R.S., mail fraud, tax evasion, racketeering, defrauding the Treasury and trading with the enemy. (The last of these was for an oil deal with Iran while it held American hostages.) On hearing that they were about to be prosecuted, they fled to Switzerland. For the next 17 years, Mr. Rich ducked extradition requests as well as attempts by federal marshals to arrest him in France, England, Finland and elsewhere.

Mr. Rich’s lawyers tried repeatedly to reach a deal with federal prosecutors in New York that would keep him out of jail if he returned. Though his companies pleaded guilty and paid $200 million in fines and other penalties, Mr. Rich insisted that the case against him was weak. The prosecutors offered to drop the racketeering charges and to let Mr. Rich free on bail (without a passport) if he would return. Mr. Rich refused.

The story of how the fugitive came to be pardoned by President Clinton was the subject of a painstaking study by the House Government Reform Committee. While the committee’s report is the subject of some controversy — its Republican chairman, Dan Burton of Indiana, was accused of partisanship — the staff that compiled the documentation was thoroughly professional. All the citations and facts that follow are supported by testimony before the committee or its staff’s documentary evidence.

In 1999, Mr. Rich hired Jack Quinn, who had been Mr. Clinton’s White House counsel from 1995 to 1996, to help him advance his cause. The Rich team was still hoping to strike a deal with federal prosecutors in New York, who were in charge of the case. An e-mail message to Mr. Rich from one of his New York lawyers said that Mr. Quinn felt “he could convince Eric that it made sense to listen to the professors and that he could convince Eric to encourage Mary Jo to do the same.” The “professors” were two tax experts paid more than $96,000 for a study based solely on statements provided them by the Rich legal team; “Mary Jo” was Mary Jo White, the United States attorney in New York.

Mr. Holder was not unsympathetic. He told Mr. Quinn in November of 1999 that he considered the New York prosecutor’s persistent refusal of a meeting “ridiculous” and that “the equities” were on Mr. Rich’s side. Mr. Holder told Mr. Quinn to write a letter to Ms. White with a copy to him, and promised to call her when it arrived. Mr. Holder then called Ms. White personally and, after that conversation, told Mr. Quinn she “didn’t sound like her guard was up.” But New York stood firm.

On Nov. 18, 2000, Mr. Quinn told Mr. Holder that Mr. Rich was going to go for a pardon, a step his team had been contemplating for months. After the conversation, Mr. Quinn told colleagues that Mr. Holder had advised him to “go straight to” the White House and that the “timing is good.” On Dec. 11, just over a month before Mr. Clinton was to leave office, Mr. Quinn delivered the pardon papers to the White House. “The greatest danger lies with the lawyers,” Mr. Quinn wrote in an e-mail message to an aide to Mr. Rich, referring to the prosecutors in New York. “I have worked them hard and I am hopeful that E. Holder will be helpful to us.”

Under the rules governing pardon petitions — rules that were approved by Mr. Holder’s office — the views of United States attorneys “are given considerable weight” because of the “valuable insights” they have. And yet Mr. Holder did not consult Ms. White and her colleagues about the Rich pardon petition; they did not know of it until it had been granted.

Then, on Jan. 19, 2001, Mr. Holder delivered his pardon assessment to the White House, telling Beth Nolan, the White House counsel, that he was “neutral leaning favorable” on the Rich pardon. His decision, he added, was influenced by the support of Ehud Barak, the Israeli prime minister.

The people in the United States attorney’s office in New York weren’t the only ones surprised by Mr. Holder’s decision. Deborah Smolover, his top deputy for pardon cases, did not find out about the pardon for Mr. Rich until the White House called to inform her of it after midnight on Jan. 20. (Mr. Green won a pardon, too.) After the pardon was signed, Mr. Quinn has testified, Mr. Holder called him to commend him on “a very good job.” Mr. Holder also asked Mr. Quinn to consider hiring two former aides, one of whom had already contacted Mr. Quinn on Jan. 2 “at Holder’s suggestion.”

The precedent against pardons for fugitives was set more than 200 years ago by President John Adams. The charge, brought in 1799, was murder on the high seas against a ship’s captain who was clearly trying to put down a mutiny. But the mutineers made it back to the States, ready to testify against the captain, while his supporters were still at sea. The captain was afraid to return. Asked to approve a nolle prosequi (a notice that prosecution won’t be pursued, a procedure then treated as part of the pardon power), the president consulted his cabinet, which concluded that a trial should come first and a pardon, if justified, after that. Clemency, wrote Secretary of War James McHenry, should be exercised only with “great caution and on the fullest information.”

Mr. Holder never came close to meeting that standard. He had the last word at Justice on clemency petitions and he saw to it that he had the only word. He brokered one of the most unjustifiable pardons that an American president has ever granted.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/22/opinion/22lardner.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&ref=opinion
 
I think a reasonable level of panic is justified right about now.

You bet.

Rahm Emmanuel, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton are all going to have prominent membership in the Obama regime. And their opinions on gun rights should have all gun owners on edge.

We only need Charles Schumer to be named Secretary of Commerce and Diane Feinstein to be named Secretary of the Interior to round it out!
 
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