one-eyed Jack
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Maybe some dealers. I'm betting that none of my guys here at the Mill would stoop that low. Jack.welcome to the $75 transfer...
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Maybe some dealers. I'm betting that none of my guys here at the Mill would stoop that low. Jack.welcome to the $75 transfer...
The last thing that leftist/socialist anti-2A government wants to do is help small gun dealers earn a living and prosper. My prediction: If it ever comes down to where all (legal) firearms transfers must be done through licensed dealers, government will limit what those dealers can charge by setting a cap or a fixed fee.Maybe some dealers. I'm betting that none of my guys here at the Mill would stoop that low. Jack.
In this state they might try that. To set prices for what business people can charge for goods and services becomes a very serious issue. Jack.The last thing that leftist/socialist anti-2A government wants to do is help small gun dealers earn a living and prosper. My prediction: If it ever comes down to where all (legal) firearms transfers must be done through licensed dealers, government will limit what those dealers can charge by setting a cap or a fixed fee.
yeah, a good bet. they'd all have to get together and do a price increase cause if 20 guys were charging 20-25, how many transfers would the odd man get if he were charging $75?Maybe some dealers. I'm betting that none of my guys here at the Mill would stoop that low. Jack.
Being that he is an FFL,he is just projecting his dreams of no more FTF because FFL's will profit the most off of that legislation.
Shit,he will probably vote for it lol
Here is the wording from H.R.8 - Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2019, the law passed by the House and will be debated in the Senate:
(3) by inserting after subsection (s), as redesignated, the following:
“(t) (1) (A) It shall be unlawful for any person who is not a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to transfer a firearm to any other person who is not so licensed, unless a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer has first taken possession of the firearm for the purpose of complying with subsection (s).
The new Federal law requires the FFL to “take Possession”. (i.e. enter it into their bound book) before doing the background check. I would interpret this to mean that, in MA, the FFL would then be bound by all the AG’s regulations in terms of transferring the gun to the buying party.
If it were passed into law that way, I would agree with you.Here is the wording from H.R.8 - Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2019, the law passed by the House and will be debated in the Senate:
(3) by inserting after subsection (s), as redesignated, the following:
“(t) (1) (A) It shall be unlawful for any person who is not a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to transfer a firearm to any other person who is not so licensed, unless a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer has first taken possession of the firearm for the purpose of complying with subsection (s).
The new Federal law requires the FFL to “take Possession”. (i.e. enter it into their bound book) before doing the background check. I would interpret this to mean that, in MA, the FFL would then be bound by all the AG’s regulations in terms of transferring the gun to the buying party.
I was under the understanding that you can sell a firearm you manufacture, you just can't manufacture with the intent of selling if you're not an FFL...
If you're not an FFL, it's a serial still required? I thought that only applied to licensees?This is correct. The Feds don't care if you sell it, so long as it's serialized and wasn't manufactured with the intent to sell it if you don't have an FFL.
The new Federal law requires the FFL to “take Possession”. (i.e. enter it into their bound book) before doing the background check. I would interpret this to mean that, in MA, the FFL would then be bound by all the AG’s regulations in terms of transferring the gun to the buying party.
What about if you are a C&R FFL holder? That would mean C&R guns = no UBC
If you're not an FFL, it's a serial still required? I thought that only applied to licensees?
No FFL in their right mind would want this
Private transfers are literally the biggest pain in the ass for the least return
Are you an FFL ?
It’s not that far fetched , most online companies don’t have a actual retail location or on hand inventory and are specifically built around drop ship sales from a handful of non associated distribution companies.
That is truly an amazing statement. I don't question that you are sincere about that, but I sure wish I were in a business where a few minutes of computerized paperwork yielded $25-$40 in cash. Perhaps if this nonsense ever really becomes law, maybe part-time, by-appointment-only "transfers-only" dealers will become a thing.Yup , and person to person transfers are a big pain in the ass. If this crap became reality I’d have to seriously consider stopping person to person transfers as it would completely bog down my business for close to no return on the time spent
If you are good and fast doing the NICS and FA10 (MIRCS in Mass) online, it goes quick as long as no delay is involved. My problem is that I'm old and slow. Jack.That is truly an amazing statement. I don't question that you are sincere about that, but I sure wish I were in a business where a few minutes of computerized paperwork yielded $25-$40 in cash. Perhaps if this nonsense ever really becomes law, maybe part-time, by-appointment-only "transfers-only" dealers will become a thing.
That is truly an amazing statement. I don't question that you are sincere about that, but I sure wish I were in a business where a few minutes of computerized paperwork yielded $25-$40 in cash. Perhaps if this nonsense ever really becomes law, maybe part-time, by-appointment-only "transfers-only" dealers will become a thing.
I did a personal transfer last week and we tied up the counter person on and off for about 30 minutes.
Bob